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Hi guys, reading over the thread a bit and I see lots of variances in the techniques here to look after your shoes, I just have some quick noob questions im wondering if someone could answer:

 

- I'm just wondering should I get some Saphir Renovateur as well as polish for my specific shoe colour, eg Allen Edmonds walnut polish or does the Renovatuer act as a polish as well?

- I see some of you use a moist cloth to clean the shoe before hand is there harm in using a specific cleaner/conditioner?

- I'm guessing its the wax in specific shoe polishes that can offer them water proof protection or do I require a specific product?  In the past I've had conditioners with waterproofing agents in them but they were pretty cheap and not sure I trust using those on some of the descent new shoes

 

Thanks in advance, 

post #3407 of 10494
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Originally Posted by Osiris2012 View Post

Hi guys, reading over the thread a bit and I see lots of variances in the techniques here to look after your shoes, I just have some quick noob questions im wondering if someone could answer:

 

- I'm just wondering should I get some Saphir Renovateur as well as polish for my specific shoe colour, eg Allen Edmonds walnut polish or does the Renovatuer act as a polish as well?

- I see some of you use a moist cloth to clean the shoe before hand is there harm in using a specific cleaner/conditioner?

- I'm guessing its the wax in specific shoe polishes that can offer them water proof protection or do I require a specific product?  In the past I've had conditioners with waterproofing agents in them but they were pretty cheap and not sure I trust using those on some of the descent new shoes

 

Thanks in advance, 

Waterproofing agent sounds like silicone...

Montana's Pitch Blend, Obenauf's both offer some waterproofing but if you really want 100% waterproof go with rubber footware.

As a rule of thumg, leather soles do not like water in any form, so if it's raining or snowing don't put on the fine leather shoes.

Renovateur is a cleaner and nurisher for leather but you may want some colour specific cream, or wax.

post #3408 of 10494
Is there any way to lighten the welt and sole of a shoe. I have Alden LWB in Black with Black sole and would like to have them look similiar to the Edge/ Welt of this one...
http://unionmadegoods.com/Alden_Corbett_Longwing_in_Black_Scotch_Grain_97975_7975.html
post #3409 of 10494
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Originally Posted by fitchottie View Post

Is there any way to lighten the welt and sole of a shoe. I have Alden LWB in Black with Black sole and would like to have them look similiar to the Edge/ Welt of this one...
http://unionmadegoods.com/Alden_Corbett_Longwing_in_Black_Scotch_Grain_97975_7975.html

Some have done a DIY for lightening the edge but you'll have to send them off somewhere to get a new welt.
post #3410 of 10494
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Originally Posted by fitchottie View Post

Is there any way to lighten the welt and sole of a shoe. I have Alden LWB in Black with Black sole and would like to have them look similiar to the Edge/ Welt of this one...
http://unionmadegoods.com/Alden_Corbett_Longwing_in_Black_Scotch_Grain_97975_7975.html

The Saphir Renovating Repair Cream (we also sell it as "Saphir Edge Dressing") would be perfect for this. You could effectively recolor in any shade. It's a very simple product: resin and pigment. We carry basic colors, but if you needed it in something a little more adventurous, we could probably get it for you.

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post #3411 of 10494
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Originally Posted by kirbya View Post

The Saphir Renovating Repair Cream (we also sell it as "Saphir Edge Dressing") would be perfect for this. You could effectively recolor in any shade. It's a very simple product: resin and pigment. We carry basic colors, but if you needed it in something a little more adventurous, we could probably get it for you.

But in order to show the leather soles one would still have to sand down or strip of the Black. The welt would have to remain black but the sides could then be sealed with Vet Cream or oil of some sort to keep the soles supple.
post #3412 of 10494
Hi everyone, long time viewer of style forum but almost a non-poster and I need some noob help.

Just bought the Chppewa for J crew moc toe boots and was wondering sizing. I have small feet so I bought their smallest size of 7.5 while in wolverines I wear 7. Should that be fine? Also, any recommendations on how I should treat it? Should I do snow seal? I plan to wear these on light winter snow in Toronto. Also, should getting a pair of shoe trees be helpful?

I thank anyone that can help me!
post #3413 of 10494
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Originally Posted by calcuu View Post

Hi everyone, long time viewer of style forum but almost a non-poster and I need some noob help.
Just bought the Chppewa for J crew moc toe boots and was wondering sizing. I have small feet so I bought their smallest size of 7.5 while in wolverines I wear 7. Should that be fine? Also, any recommendations on how I should treat it? Should I do snow seal? I plan to wear these on light winter snow in Toronto. Also, should getting a pair of shoe trees be helpful?
I thank anyone that can help me!
They fit like wolverines... so you may have to wear a thick sock to take up the slack or an Insole.
post #3414 of 10494
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Originally Posted by fitchottie View Post

But in order to show the leather soles one would still have to sand down or strip of the Black. The welt would have to remain black but the sides could then be sealed with Vet Cream or oil of some sort to keep the soles supple.

SF member NAMOR did a thread about this - yes - you have to sand down the existing finish to remove it.
post #3415 of 10494
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Originally Posted by kwhunter View Post

Waterproofing agent sounds like silicone...

Montana's Pitch Blend, Obenauf's both offer some waterproofing but if you really want 100% waterproof go with rubber footware.

As a rule of thumg, leather soles do not like water in any form, so if it's raining or snowing don't put on the fine leather shoes.

Renovateur is a cleaner and nurisher for leather but you may want some colour specific cream, or wax.

Hey thanks for responding, sorry I didn't mean full on waterproofing I know leather and water (and snow) don't mix but I mean offering general protection from light drips of water, eg I have a pair of dress boots I forgot to apply anything too before taking out and a very light shower has left them stained and in some areas with small bubbles.  In any case thanks for clearing up the Renovateur vs the polish/cremes.

post #3416 of 10494
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Originally Posted by InIgnemAeternum View Post

The dress shoes are strictly for indoors during the winter, don't worry. No way in hell am I bringing those outside in the snow.
I would like to make sure they are waterproofed for rainy days during the warmer months of the year. If you think the product I found is not suitable, perhaps you would have a recommendation?

Evidently, I still have a lot to learn. confused.gif

Rubber footware.   Or silicone for the uppers... bounce2.gif

Obenauf's works wonders on the soles and on outdoors footware.

post #3417 of 10494

Hello,

In the spirit of me being a complete newbie and do not want to screw up my first pair of pretty expensive shoes - the Bruno Magli Raging, also to generate jobs by giving business to these professionals, and also to ask the person for recommendation on products, aftercare procedures, etc, that’s why I am going there.

 

I am thinking of doing the following, please let me know if I am right.

 

  • Get them out of the box, wear them for a bit in the house to make sure it fits, put it in the shoe tree and take it to the nearest Nordstrom that has shoe shine service ( I did get the shoes from Nordstrom, so it make sense)
  • Then I’ll tell them I want the shoe to be cleaned (it IS brand new, so it may sound stupid to the person), conditioned, regular polished (not mirrorshine), then water proofing coated. Should these services be done in a different order? Should I mention that it is “nappa” leather or would they know or does it not matter?
  • Then I’ll ask if they have any good recommendations for brush on site so I can buy one, then that’s it right?
  • I plan on going to the shoe shine place every 2 weeks to get them reconditioned + weatherproofed + polished, so I do not need any of those sprays/lotion @ home right?

Please advise! Thanks!

post #3418 of 10494
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Originally Posted by Nikos View Post

Hello kind Sirs,
Off topic, but I thought I could ask:
My wife's rather old Mulberry bag had these rain stains, so I thought it could use some renovateur. I used it twice within a few days, brushed/buffed, same as I do with my shoes. The stains are still there, which is fine, but the leather looks much better now, it needed the nourishment.
However, the following day I noticed this white residue which will not brush off.
Any ideas? Thanks



I have a wafer thin Mulberry document bag. Bought it many years ago, before they became fashionable. Believe the early stuff was all made in the UK. Anyway, a lot of their leather has a slightly pitted surface, into which RM Williams saddle dressing spreads evenly, but does tent to dry with whitish spots. Best solution has been for me to condition just once a year, during the hottest months. I leave the bag in direct sunlight by the window to warm up first. Same with the tin of dressing. Just use your common sense, old rags and lots of buffing. A day outside in really hot weather fully sets and cures it. Simple. Just be aware that my Mulberry has darkened/ patinated quite considerably since new. Must be down to the suns rays on the leather + RMW dressing, as the same conditioned area under the main flap is much lighter in colour.

No real reason as to why I use RMW dressing. Always have and probably always will. The only thing I don't use it on is RMW boots... go figure.

This probably isn't as much off-topic as might appear... same rules apply to conditioning your shoes, whatever your choice of product.

Lear
post #3419 of 10494
Just ordered a pair of cheap vintage shell cordovan Florsheim's, as you are not a shoe connoisseur without having owned a pair, which I intend to test care regimes many here would describe as blasphemy. Stay tuned.
post #3420 of 10494
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Originally Posted by Lear View Post


I have a wafer thin Mulberry document bag. Bought it many years ago, before they became fashionable. Believe the early stuff was all made in the UK. Anyway, a lot of their leather has a slightly pitted surface, into which RM Williams saddle dressing spreads evenly, but does tent to dry with whitish spots. Best solution has been for me to condition just once a year, during the hottest months. I leave the bag in direct sunlight by the window to warm up first. Same with the tin of dressing. Just use your common sense, old rags and lots of buffing. A day outside in really hot weather fully sets and cures it. Simple. Just be aware that my Mulberry has darkened/ patinated quite considerably since new. Must be down to the suns rays on the leather + RMW dressing, as the same conditioned area under the main flap is much lighter in colour.
No real reason as to why I use RMW dressing. Always have and probably always will. The only thing I don't use it on is RMW boots... go figure.
This probably isn't as much off-topic as might appear... same rules apply to conditioning your shoes, whatever your choice of product.
Lear

 

I bought a big container of RMW Leather Conditioner from the Manhattan RMW store 3-4 yrs ago. I really like it. I use Obenauf on work boots and other leather items that need weatherproofing but not on calfskin leather shoes and boots. For those items, the RMW conditioner seemed to work well, smell good and certainly hasn't "hurt" any of my calfskin footwear. That said, Saphir has taken the place of RMW's conditioner in many cases but the RMW product still has a place in my kit.

 

Like many of us, I've come to the conclusion that [generally speaking] the brand of product is less important than the methods employed (i.e., use conditioners/products in moderation, remove salt, dirt, etc. after each use, brush regularly and use conditioners/products in moderation). There are exceptions of course, but most quality products will do the job if the user knows what he is doing.

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