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post #2926 of 10715
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Originally Posted by hendrix View Post

water won't damage leather as long as you leave it to dry. So you don't have to worry either way. Every 6 months or so give them a feed with a leather conditioner or shoe grease.
If you still want to add some form of waterproofing I'd use dubbin.

I have seen shoes get damaged from water tho... little bubbles rising up and such. i thought cordovan didn't do that tho? i do hear you on the conditioner tho

post #2927 of 10715
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Originally Posted by hendrix View Post

water won't damage leather as long as you leave it to dry. So you don't have to worry either way. Every 6 months or so give them a feed with a leather conditioner or shoe grease.
If you still want to add some form of waterproofing I'd use dubbin.

I have seen shoes get damaged from water tho... little bubbles rising up and such. i thought cordovan didn't do that tho? i do hear you on the conditioner tho

 

I was under the impression that shell was quite vulnerable to water, not in a leather damage sense, but in a finish sense, where people caught in the rain would have discolouration where water was allowed to sit on the uppers. Personally, if you want water-resistant leather shoes, try for some with a waxy finish, not shell. With your current pairs of shell, just try and wipe them dry as soon as you can, then give them a good brush at the end of the day *shrug*.

post #2928 of 10715
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Originally Posted by JBMarce21 View Post

I have seen shoes get damaged from water tho... little bubbles rising up and such. i thought cordovan didn't do that tho? i do hear you on the conditioner tho

the "damage" is entirely cosmetic.

the welts and bubbles often associated with shell and water are IMO because people use wax polish on shell, and being a pullup leather the wax can't get into the pores and stays right on the surface. When you add water it gets trapped in the layers of wax and causes those bubbles.

IMO the solution is just to let it dry, and then use less wax or none at all on shell. I find a cream or conditioner is more appropriate.
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Originally Posted by joiji View Post

Personally, if you want water-resistant leather shoes, try for some with a waxy finish, not shell.

Shell has a waxy finish...It is quite water resistant.
post #2929 of 10715
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Originally Posted by Gdot View Post


I would doubt that the stain can be completely removed without stripping the shoe - the tea has soaked into the leather and if the color has not lightened after the shoe has dried then it will not lighten further on it's own.
You could take them to a shoe repair to see what their opinion might be. Or you could strip them yourself to see if that will lift the stain.
Of course the shoes can always be darkened if the stain doesn't come out - but I suspect it can be removed for the most part.
I should say I've no personal experience on this one - I only know that tea is known for it's ability to stain and that any stain in a shoe that does not disappear when dry is not going to disappear on it's own.

 

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Originally Posted by kirbya View Post

I'm not certain about that. The Reno'Mat might pull it out or, at a minimum, fade it at lease a little bit. At a minimum, a darker polish could be used to conceal or minimize its appearance.


It has been 3x 24 hours & Stain still stick in there

The first day when the shoes stain I quickly use Lexol Cleaner before applying the MDO Cream (I polish with wax a days before). I use cleaner to strip off the wax polish

But Is that logical some Cleaner would like to remove the stain? From what I learn, cleaner used to remove the old (wax) polish

 

From my experience, I found even a neutral leather conditioner If concentrated in one point will cause stain in my tan shoes. But it disappear as time goes by 30-40 minutes. This Tea is a very unique case for me. It think it's likely there's Sticky, Dyed compound that sit in it

post #2930 of 10715
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Originally Posted by hendrix View Post


the "damage" is entirely cosmetic.
the welts and bubbles often associated with shell and water are IMO because people use wax polish on shell, and being a pullup leather the wax can't get into the pores and stays right on the surface. When you add water it gets trapped in the layers of wax and causes those bubbles.
IMO the solution is just to let it dry, and then use less wax or none at all on shell. I find a cream or conditioner is more appropriate.
Shell has a waxy finish...It is quite water resistant.

OK great. As I have not actually received the shoes yet, I will let you know how it goes!

post #2931 of 10715
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Originally Posted by hendrix View Post

the "damage" is entirely cosmetic.
the welts and bubbles often associated with shell and water are IMO because people use wax polish on shell, and being a pullup leather the wax can't get into the pores and stays right on the surface. When you add water it gets trapped in the layers of wax and causes those bubbles.

IMO the solution is just to let it dry, and then use less wax or none at all on shell. I find a cream or conditioner is more appropriate.
Shell has a waxy finish...It is quite water resistant.

+1 This matches my personal experience.
post #2932 of 10715
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Originally Posted by paskaldjay View Post



It has been 3x 24 hours & Stain still stick in there
The first day when the shoes stain I quickly use Lexol Cleaner before applying the MDO Cream (I polish with wax a days before). I use cleaner to strip off the wax polish
But Is that logical some Cleaner would like to remove the stain? From what I learn, cleaner used to remove the old (wax) polish

From my experience, I found even a neutral leather conditioner If concentrated in one point will cause stain in my tan shoes. But it disappear as time goes by 30-40 minutes. This Tea is a very unique case for me. It think it's likely there's Sticky, Dyed compound that sit in it

I would NOT apply any more conditioner or cream to the shoe until the stain is removed. As this will just add more protective coating over the stain.

You might try cleaning them a couple of more times with Lexol or Reno Mat. Wait 24 hours in between. But this is not sounding promising to me.
post #2933 of 10715
Hi all, I wondered if it would be possible to lighten these Loakes shoes a little? I used shoe cream one time when I first bought them which darkened them a little.

Since then, the lightest regular run of the mill shoe polish (my only shoe care on them) I could get is more mid tan, so tends to darken them too.

Lastly, could you recommend a very basic regime founded on Saphir products? Would leather conditioner once every 2 weeks alternated with a polish with Saphir solid polish be reasonable? I'm looking for an abbreviated but decent regime smile.gif

Many thanks

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post #2934 of 10715
Any polish will slightly darken shoes, because of that many people use slightly lighter than the shade of the shoe to balance it out. Other than taking bleach and a lot of elbow grease to your shoes and possibly doing a lot of damage to them in the refinishing process I think you just have to live with them and let the lighter color from the polishes impart slowly over time.

For a simple regime I would say saphir renovateur, and either wax or cream polish. Polish in frequently, brushing mostly to revive a shine, when they get dull a slight coat of reno generally does the job, if they still look dull a coat of wax or cream.

I think generally people overdo products on their shoes. A quick brushing usually does a great job of sprucing up your shoes in between full on polish jobs.
post #2935 of 10715
I'd also add that even any cream, such as Renovateur, will appear to darken your shoes if the leather has gotten too dry, just like fabric darkens when it gets wet. What we perceive as "darkening" is the replenishing of oils into the leather. Your Loakes may have been dry to begin with.
post #2936 of 10715
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

Any polish will slightly darken shoes, because of that many people use slightly lighter than the shade of the shoe to balance it out. Other than taking bleach and a lot of elbow grease to your shoes and possibly doing a lot of damage to them in the refinishing process I think you just have to live with them and let the lighter color from the polishes impart slowly over time.
For a simple regime I would say saphir renovateur, and either wax or cream polish. Polish in frequently, brushing mostly to revive a shine, when they get dull a slight coat of reno generally does the job, if they still look dull a coat of wax or cream.
I think generally people overdo products on their shoes. A quick brushing usually does a great job of sprucing up your shoes in between full on polish jobs.

Brilliant information, thanks Patrick.

So as they do need some livening up at the moment, use the renovator first, see how that helps and if not use the polish too?

After that as you say give them a quick dry brush as needed, using the renovator first and foremost when things dull down, with polish even less frequently?
post #2937 of 10715
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Originally Posted by TheDarkKnight View Post

Brilliant information, thanks Patrick.
So as they do need some livening up at the moment, use the renovator first, see how that helps and if not use the polish too?
After that as you say give them a quick dry brush as needed, using the renovator first and foremost when things dull down, with polish even less frequently?

I would say to start, reno brush, polish, brush.

Then in between wearings just give them a brush. If they look a little dull or dry try just using some reno. When just brushing and one coat of reno isn't doing it anymore then apply some polish.
post #2938 of 10715
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

I would say to start, reno brush, polish, brush.
Then in between wearings just give them a brush. If they look a little dull or dry try just using some reno. When just brushing and one coat of reno isn't doing it anymore then apply some polish.

Great, thank you Patrick smile.gif
post #2939 of 10715
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post #2940 of 10715
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

I think generally people overdo products on their shoes. A quick brushing usually does a great job of sprucing up your shoes in between full on polish jobs.

+1

In between full polishing (sometimes even for a couple of months) i buff lightly using selvyt cloth to bring back shine
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