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post #18436 of 19043
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Originally Posted by Fred G. Unn View Post


I assume if anyone could do that, and it's a reasonably good idea to actually do, then B. Nelson could. Paging @Nick V., who will probably have an answer for you.

I think an internal tongue pad or an external leather tongue pad would have a lot of appeal on this forum and the shoe geek world at large. I cant be the first to ask about this. I wonder if this is routinely requested of @Nick V.?

post #18437 of 19043
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Originally Posted by bdavro23 View Post
 

I think an internal tongue pad or an external leather tongue pad would have a lot of appeal on this forum and the shoe geek world at large. I cant be the first to ask about this. I wonder if this is routinely requested of @Nick V.?

 

I'm in the same boat as you. I have a low instep as well and was recently looking for a solution for my high instep Enzo Bonafes. An external leather tongue pad would be great if available, I'll likely explore making some myself.

 

Edit: I just found the Pedag Supras on ebay, which may be the best option at the moment.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pedag-Supra-Instep-Shoe-Tongue-Cushion-Shoes-Trainers-new-/221948968676

post #18438 of 19043
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Originally Posted by Munky View Post

cbfn. Unfortunately, the site says that the felt pad is no longer available. 

I know, I am waiting for a restock which is due in some days.
post #18439 of 19043
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Originally Posted by lexxdeleon View Post

I'm in the same boat as you. I have a low instep as well and was recently looking for a solution for my high instep Enzo Bonafes. An external leather tongue pad would be great if available, I'll likely explore making some myself.

Edit: I just found the Pedag Supras on ebay, which may be the best option at the moment.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pedag-Supra-Instep-Shoe-Tongue-Cushion-Shoes-Trainers-new-/221948968676

I am quite familiar with this brand, they make good products. However, I am not familiar with this particular one. We do get requests from time-to-time to insert a tongue pad between the tongue and tongue liner of the shoe. This means the tongue and the tongue liner are separated. We affix a tongue pad to the underside of the tongue and cement and stitch the liner back over it. I always caution the customer that the felt tongue pads that we use eventually compress which may cause the shoe to loosen again. When/if that happens it's a pain to re-open the tongue, remove the worn tongue pad and cement and, apply a new one. Oddly, that rarely happens.....I often see customers use the stick-on tongue pads on top of the tongue liner. When they wear out they get pealed off, the old adhesive removed and, a new tongue pad applied.
That's pretty much the norm...

The product in the above link says it's made of leather and memory foam. To me, be it felt -or- any foam eventually it will compress. That means it would need to be replaced at some point. I don't know why but, for some reason when the tongue pad is laminated between the tongue and the tongue liner they seem to hold up better.
post #18440 of 19043

I have just purchased these JL moccasins from Nick at Bespoke England. They are velveteen calf so my question is can I use my suede products on these or is there a specific product? I have looked and cannot find anything.

 

I use Saphir Medaile D'or Renovateur spray and Super Invulner along with a horsehair brush on my suede shoes and find them to be very good. Hopefully, velveteen calf is similar enough?

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post #18441 of 19043
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Originally Posted by Steven Cash View Post
 

I have just purchased these JL moccasins from Nick at Bespoke England. They are velveteen calf so my question is can I use my suede products on these or is there a specific product? I have looked and cannot find anything.

 

I use Saphir Medaile D'or Renovateur spray and Super Invulner along with a horsehair brush on my suede shoes and find them to be very good. Hopefully, velveteen calf is similar enough?

Driver-sand-3_0eadb135-4cf1-45d7-b706-35647a21f71a_1024x1024.jpg?v=1456750289

 

Goodness! What beautiful shoes. Could you not contact Lobb to ask them how to care for these?

post #18442 of 19043
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Originally Posted by Steven Cash View Post
 

I have just purchased these JL moccasins from Nick at Bespoke England. They are velveteen calf so my question is can I use my suede products on these or is there a specific product? I have looked and cannot find anything.

 

I use Saphir Medaile D'or Renovateur spray and Super Invulner along with a horsehair brush on my suede shoes and find them to be very good. Hopefully, velveteen calf is similar enough?

Driver-sand-3_0eadb135-4cf1-45d7-b706-35647a21f71a_1024x1024.jpg?v=1456750289

Personally I've never heard of "velveteen" suede and appears to me to be a nonsense word in the sense that it has nothing to do with the type of leather and more to do with a sensory perception. I.e. it has the feel of velvet. Having a quick browse online I found them to be described as Nubuck leather rather than suede which has a more fine nap to it, so it should feel smoother and more like "velvet".

 

In my opinion and in terms of leather, its just nubuck and should be treated as such. Although as Munky states it may be best to contact John Lobb for more info if in doubt.

post #18443 of 19043
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Originally Posted by Munky View Post
 

 

Goodness! What beautiful shoes. Could you not contact Lobb to ask them how to care for these?

 

Thanks Munky - they are currently on sale on Nick's website if you're interested http://www.bespoke-england.co.uk/products/driver-casual-moccasin-in-sand-velveteen-calf-ee-wide

 

I will phone Lobb.

post #18444 of 19043
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Originally Posted by PParker ESQ View Post
 

Personally I've never heard of "velveteen" suede and appears to me to be a nonsense word in the sense that it has nothing to do with the type of leather and more to do with a sensory perception. I.e. it has the feel of velvet. Having a quick browse online I found them to be described as Nubuck leather rather than suede which has a more fine nap to it, so it should feel smoother and more like "velvet".

 

In my opinion and in terms of leather, its just nubuck and should be treated as such. Although as Munky states it may be best to contact John Lobb for more info if in doubt.

 

I agree - sounds like marketing spiel to me too.

 

I have phoned Lobb and they recommend the same products that I use for suede (the Renovatueur and Super Invulner sprays - or equivalent) however, they did advise against the use of a horsehair brush and suggested a sponge was more suitable.

 

Thanks for the input guys.

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Hello gents,

I just ordered this pair of burgundy. From pictures it seems to be a bit reddish. I would like to darken them. Any advice? I was thinking of a burgundy cream as a base layer (as it retains the real color of the leather?) and then a darker wax polish?

Please advice me what to do and which color cream and wax to get a nice darker burgundy patina. Thanks!
post #18446 of 19043
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Originally Posted by thuhoan View Post


Hello gents,

I just ordered this pair of burgundy. From pictures it seems to be a bit reddish. I would like to darken them. Any advice? I was thinking of a burgundy cream as a base layer (as it retains the real color of the leather?) and then a darker wax polish?

Please advice me what to do and which color cream and wax to get a nice darker burgundy patina. Thanks!

 

Black is probably the easiest way to darken quickly, though I would advise using black cream very sparingly. 

post #18447 of 19043
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Originally Posted by rbhan12 View Post
 

 

Black is probably the easiest way to darken quickly, though I would advise using black cream very sparingly. 

Thank you. If things go wrong, can I remove the cream with some (saphir) saddle soap?

post #18448 of 19043
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Originally Posted by thuhoan View Post

Thank you. If things go wrong, can I remove the cream with some (saphir) saddle soap?

I don't think saddle soap is a great idea. Saphir Renovateur is pretty good at cleaning (picking up pigment and dirt that shouldn't be there, like black cream) and should do the trick. I'm sure if you use light coats of cream it'll turn out great.
post #18449 of 19043
Hey guys, would appreciate some advise on these shoes.

They're new with shop wear (evident in the second photo). What would you recommend to get them up to snuff?

I have Saphir renovateur and wax. Should I also use coloured polish? If so, what colour would you recommend?

And lastly, since the cap toe has slightly darker burnishing, should I avoid using coloured polish on that part of the shoe?

Thanks again guys!



post #18450 of 19043
Hi there, guys.

First post in this forum. Just hoping for some advice.

My boot/shoe collection is mainly of the artisanal variety a la m_moria/CCP/Layer-0/Guidi/Carpe Diem. I have some horse, donkey, calf both reverse and full grain.

I recently purchased some Saphir Renovateur which is on its way this week. In the meantime a friend recommended I get a jug of neatsfoot oil compound.

Is there any reason to have/use both? I don't do much to my shoes besides an occasional shine at the cobblers but even then it's far and few between. Definitely like them beat up but I also don't want them to crack or fall apart due to negligence.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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