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Saphir lovers, I'm actually wondering if how frequently you use the Reno'Mat. Such a small bottle so I don't know if I should use it every time before a shine on the whole shoe or just use it on the toe area where I put the wax. 

post #18317 of 19067
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Originally Posted by nqtri View Post

Saphir lovers, I'm actually wondering if how frequently you use the Reno'Mat. Such a small bottle so I don't know if I should use it every time before a shine on the whole shoe or just use it on the toe area where I put the wax. 

Reno'Mat is for stripping old wax. Absolutely no need to use it every time you shine your shoes. Otherwise you would be subjecting your shoes to very harsh treatment.
post #18318 of 19067
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Reno'Mat is for stripping old wax. Absolutely no need to use it every time you shine your shoes. Otherwise you would be subjecting your shoes to very harsh treatment.

Thanks. So you mean I shall only use it on toe area where I have the mirror shine before every shine? 

post #18319 of 19067
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Thanks. So you mean I shall only use it on toe area where I have the mirror shine before every shine? 

No, please don't. You only use it when the mirror shine on the toe area is broken and applying more wax won't bring back the mirror shine. That's when you strip off the old wax and start afresh.
post #18320 of 19067
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Originally Posted by M635Guy View Post
 

I'd just put trees in, hit them with a light coat of Saphir Renovateur, brush, bag and store.  

 

Thanks for this, Mr M635.

post #18321 of 19067
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No, please don't. You only use it when the mirror shine on the toe area is broken and applying more wax won't bring back the mirror shine. That's when you strip off the old wax and start afresh.

Thanks. So when I start a new shine, I'll just apply Renovateur on top of the existing wax layer and apply more wax after to do the mirror shine. Is that right? 

post #18322 of 19067
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Thanks. So when I start a new shine, I'll just apply Renovateur on top of the existing wax layer and apply more wax after to do the mirror shine. Is that right? 
Are you referring to renomat or renovateur? They are two different products.
post #18323 of 19067
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Are you referring to renomat or renovateur? They are two different products.

Yes I know. I mean I won't use renomat often but then for renovateur, shall I just apply it on existing wax without stripping them off first? 

post #18324 of 19067
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Yes I know. I mean I won't use renomat often but then for renovateur, shall I just apply it on existing wax without stripping them off first? 
I've read that renovateur will strip wax a little too. I don't think you necessarily have to use renovateur before polishing the toe of your shoes.
post #18325 of 19067

RenoMat is for renovating; not for "use".

Renovateur or Lotion are for making the leather supple and prevent it from cracking. 

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For regular use you need a cream and a polish. 

Cream makes the leather soft, it protects it and gives it colour; the polish is for mirror shine and for every-day maintenance.

post #18326 of 19067
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Originally Posted by Nikolaus View Post
 

RenoMat is for renovating; not for "use".

Renovateur or Lotion are for making the leather supple and prevent it from cracking. 

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For regular use you need a cream and a polish. 

Cream makes the leather soft, it protects it and gives it colour; the polish is for mirror shine and for every-day maintenance.

The guy from Leatherfoot Toronto told me that for any non-black shoes, I don't need cream and Renovateur should do the trick. Is it incorrect? 


Edited by nqtri - 5/21/16 at 2:30pm
post #18327 of 19067
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The guy from Leatherfood Toronto told me that for any non-black shoes, I don't need cream and Renovateur should do the trick. Is it incorrect? 

That fellow obviously buys shopping-center grade shoes (Timberland, Ecco, etc.); one wears them for a couple of years and then it's time for a brand new shoe. In such a case he's correct. 

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Otherwise; I would suggest the Lotion, since it's easier to work with than Renovateur; it turns handy to lubricate the creases of the shoe and make them elastic. 

Otherwise you'll use a cream (neutral or in the colour) and the polish for the high shine (on top of the cream).

post #18328 of 19067
I am considering changing a pair of tan colored shoes to navy, and could use some advice. I have dyed shoes before, but never navy. In fact, the only time I've used navy dye in the past was as a base coat prior to black.
After stripping the old polish, I'm wondering if I should use some leather bleach prior to dyeing them. Any suggestions?
Thank you.
post #18329 of 19067

Time and time again you give incorrect information.

 

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Originally Posted by Nikolaus View Post
 

That fellow obviously buys shopping-center grade shoes (Timberland, Ecco, etc.); one wears them for a couple of years and then it's time for a brand new shoe. In such a case he's correct. 

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Otherwise; I would suggest the Lotion, since it's easier to work with than Renovateur; it turns handy to lubricate the creases of the shoe and make them elastic. 

Otherwise you'll use a cream (neutral or in the colour) and the polish for the high shine (on top of the cream).

 

Leatherfoot ( http://www.leatherfoot.com/ ) is a highly reputable retailer of menswear and from what I can tell of his IG wears quality footwear. You probably don't know who or what Leatherfoot is, but decided to rain down on him from your high horse. Maybe it's time you get off. 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Nikolaus View Post
 

RenoMat is for renovating; not for "use".

Renovateur or Lotion are for making the leather supple and prevent it from cracking. 

____

For regular use you need a cream and a polish. 

Cream makes the leather soft, it protects it and gives it colour; the polish is for mirror shine and for every-day maintenance.

 

RenoMat is absolutely not for renovating. It is a cleaning product to remove old wax, dirt, and other such stains. You have no idea what you're talking about.

post #18330 of 19067

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Originally Posted by Nikolaus View Post
 

RenoMat is for renovating; not for "use".

Renovateur or Lotion are for making the leather supple and prevent it from cracking. 

____

For regular use you need a cream and a polish. 

Cream makes the leather soft, it protects it and gives it colour; the polish is for mirror shine and for every-day maintenance.

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Originally Posted by rbhan12 View Post
 

 

Leatherfoot ( http://www.leatherfoot.com/ ) is a highly reputable retailer of menswear and from what I can tell of his IG wears quality footwear. You probably don't know who or what Leatherfoot is, but decided to rain down on him from your high horse. Maybe it's time you get off. 

 

 

 

RenoMat is absolutely not for renovating. It is a cleaning product to remove old wax, dirt, and other such stains. You have no idea what you're talking about.

 

I think he means the same thing you mean (just stated a little poorly) - it is an early (stripping) step in renovating a shoe.  

 

Renomat = Stripper for removing all the polish/wax/etc. before you start over.  Rare use.


Renovateur = Maintenance/conditioning.  Regular (though infrequent) use.

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