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post #18151 of 19272
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Originally Posted by Sushi View Post
 

Thanks, benhour. My room temperature is around 27C. I'll give your method a try, but it's not radically different from what I've been doing. The difference is that every guide I've seen says to use the tiniest amount of polish and you're recommending a "generous" amount :)

 

Update: tried benhour's approach:

 

77F = 25C

 

Generous amount of wax

 

Polished for at least 40-50 minutes while watching TV with some addition of water/polish every now and then. I think the shoe got a little shinier, but still no mirror finish. I wouldn't mind polishing longer if I knew I'm doing the right thing, but from the what I've read, it seems like this amount of polishing is more than enough for a mirror shine.

 

Results: polished shoe on the left

 

 

Any tips?

This is dejavu from my post about three weeks ago.  I ended up returning the pair of shoes I shined because the medallions were not punched correctly and it was driving me crazy.  I started the whole process again with a brand new pair of shoes.  I thought I had the process down.  Well I didn't.  

 

If you watch shoe snobs video, the first step is to apply wax without any water and let the shoes sit for a day.  I don't think you need to wait 24 hrs but you definitely need to do this step first to protect the medallions holes from the water.  Once you have your base layer of wax down, then you can start applying the wax a little more generously with the water.  Not a glob but you can rub your fingers in the tin 2-3 times until it's coated.  The shine comes from a combination of the wax and the friction created by water.  When you've practiced enough, the amount of pressure you apply with come to you naturally.  It did for me anyways. 

post #18152 of 19272

I should know the answer to this, but don't.  Should you use shoe trees in shoes made of waxy, distressed, leather that has a slight pull-up effect?

post #18153 of 19272
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Originally Posted by Munky View Post
 

I should know the answer to this, but don't.  Should you use shoe trees in shoes made of waxy, distressed, leather that has a slight pull-up effect?

 

Well, why wouldn't you?

post #18154 of 19272
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Originally Posted by Munky View Post
 

I should know the answer to this, but don't.  Should you use shoe trees in shoes made of waxy, distressed, leather that has a slight pull-up effect?

 

Why would you give shape to those distressed finished shoes like this? If they are designed to look like shit, keep them like shit.

 

post #18155 of 19272

Thank you for your useful comments on this issue, Chogall. I appreciate your taking time to give some, considered, thought to this.  I am not at all sure that my shoes look anything like the boots in your illustration. As always, you are a gentleman and a scholar. Yours, as always, Munky. :tounge:

post #18156 of 19272
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Originally Posted by Cuebert View Post

Many thanks for the help!

So this is what the shoe looks like:





The thing is: I don't want them to get too shiny. Maybe I should just use less water than usual while applying the wax?

What colour of the pictures above would you suggest? - I think I should just go with the medium brown in the middle. Do you agree?

The problem is SC puts too much polish on the toe cap. You can either strip off polish at the toe or add color to the rest of the shoes. Shoe cream polish works way better if you want to achieve similar color v
post #18157 of 19272
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Originally Posted by Munky View Post

Thank you for your useful comments on this issue, Chogall. I appreciate your taking time to give some, considered, thought to this.  I am not at all sure that my shoes look anything like the boots in your illustration. As always, you are a gentleman and a scholar. Yours, as always, Munky. tounge.gif

Not sure what kind of distressed waxy shoes are you talking about so I used a picture of $$$$ Guidi street wear boots.

If you spent that much money for those boots, it would be a waste and a sin to try to straighten out with trees or over care for them.
post #18158 of 19272
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Originally Posted by Sushi View Post
 

Hi everyone,

I'm having trouble getting that perfect mirror shine on my new AE shoes and I'm seeking your advice.

 

Supplies:

Saphir Medaille D'or 1925 Pate De Luxe Black 50ml Wax Shoe Polish

Cotton polishing cloth

Allen Edmonds Strand shoes, black

 

Technique:

Tiny dab of polish on cotton cloth, tiny drop of spit, gentle circular motion on the toe cap for about 30 seconds. Then I breathe on the toe cap to form condensation and proceed with polishing. After ~3 min I add another dab of polish / spit. Polished one of the shoes for about 30 minutes total today with the following result:

 

 

The shoe on the right is polished, left isn't. It's a bit shinier, but nowhere close to the mirror finish. I can see some leather texture on it, which I don't see on photos of shoes shined to mirror perfection. Any tips what I can do to achieve that mirror finish?

Check out this link, it may be of some assistance?

 

http://www.styleforum.net/a/what-tools-do-you-need-to-get-burnish-your-shoes-like-a-real-pro-and-how-do-you-do-it

 

Regards

 

Carl.

post #18159 of 19272

Knowledgeable gentlemen of the Shoe Care thread, I have a question about the behavior of light colored leather creasing and darkening. Below is a photo taken in sunlight of a pair of Allen Edmonds Flatirons in Walnut calf. I am not the original owner so I do not know their care history, just that they came heavily creased. I don't mind creasing and know it is a natural part of wearing shoes, however the dark color in these creases makes them significantly more prominent than with my other Walnut Strands from Allen Edmonds. Can you see how there is a lot of black or otherwise not-Walnut coloration across much of the toes and vamp? Particularly in the creases between the medallion and the laces.

 

I have tried a variety of products but generally with light applications because I wasn't sure what might help and what might hurt. Between each product application I waited 24 hours to ensure the shoes were "dry" from the previous attempt when necessary. I've tried Saphir Reno'Mat, Lexol Conditioner, Allen Edmonds Conditioner / Cleaner, and Meltonian Brown cream. My gut thinks it's either leather that is actually stripped of dye, but then I would have expected the Meltonian to have a bigger effect, or it is left over (dark) polish from the previous owner but I would have thought the Reno'mat or other products would have taken care of this. Again, I only used the Reno'Mat and the Meltonian in light amounts so if directed I could certainly use them more liberally. For what it's worth, the leather still feels healthy and nowhere near cracking or significant damage. Any direction would be greatly appreciated!

 

post #18160 of 19272
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Originally Posted by Carl1955 View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sushi View Post
 

Hi everyone,

I'm having trouble getting that perfect mirror shine on my new AE shoes and I'm seeking your advice.

 

Supplies:

Saphir Medaille D'or 1925 Pate De Luxe Black 50ml Wax Shoe Polish

Cotton polishing cloth

Allen Edmonds Strand shoes, black

 

Technique:

Tiny dab of polish on cotton cloth, tiny drop of spit, gentle circular motion on the toe cap for about 30 seconds. Then I breathe on the toe cap to form condensation and proceed with polishing. After ~3 min I add another dab of polish / spit. Polished one of the shoes for about 30 minutes total today with the following result:

 

 

The shoe on the right is polished, left isn't. It's a bit shinier, but nowhere close to the mirror finish. I can see some leather texture on it, which I don't see on photos of shoes shined to mirror perfection. Any tips what I can do to achieve that mirror finish?

Check out this link, it may be of some assistance?

 

http://www.styleforum.net/a/what-tools-do-you-need-to-get-burnish-your-shoes-like-a-real-pro-and-how-do-you-do-it

 

Regards

 

Carl.


Just keep Trying you are in the right path...

Some shoes take longer polishing time...

Try longer time with the circular motion, your target is to heat up the wax through friction, so try to re-wax, spit, breathe without stoping or lifting the cloth for long.

I managed it in 20 minutes in some shoes and 1h and a half in others, you might as well use neutral wax alternating with black...

You can get it, it's just a matter of time wink.gif

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post #18161 of 19272
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Originally Posted by Carl1955 View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sushi View Post
 

Hi everyone,

I'm having trouble getting that perfect mirror shine on my new AE shoes and I'm seeking your advice.

 

Supplies:

Saphir Medaille D'or 1925 Pate De Luxe Black 50ml Wax Shoe Polish

Cotton polishing cloth

Allen Edmonds Strand shoes, black

 

Technique:

Tiny dab of polish on cotton cloth, tiny drop of spit, gentle circular motion on the toe cap for about 30 seconds. Then I breathe on the toe cap to form condensation and proceed with polishing. After ~3 min I add another dab of polish / spit. Polished one of the shoes for about 30 minutes total today with the following result:

 

 

The shoe on the right is polished, left isn't. It's a bit shinier, but nowhere close to the mirror finish. I can see some leather texture on it, which I don't see on photos of shoes shined to mirror perfection. Any tips what I can do to achieve that mirror finish?

Check out this link, it may be of some assistance?

 

http://www.styleforum.net/a/what-tools-do-you-need-to-get-burnish-your-shoes-like-a-real-pro-and-how-do-you-do-it

 

Regards

 

Carl.


Just keep Trying you are in the right path...

Some shoes take longer polishing time...

Try longer time with the circular motion, your target is to heat up the wax through friction, so try to re-wax, spit, breathe without stoping or lifting the cloth for long.

I managed it in 20 minutes in some shoes and 1h and a half in others, you might as well use neutral wax alternating with black...

You can get it, it's just a matter of time wink.gif

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post #18162 of 19272
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Originally Posted by Soupy View Post

Knowledgeable gentlemen of the Shoe Care thread, I have a question about the behavior of light colored leather creasing and darkening. Below is a photo taken in sunlight of a pair of Allen Edmonds Flatirons in Walnut calf. I am not the original owner so I do not know their care history, just that they came heavily creased. I don't mind creasing and know it is a natural part of wearing shoes, however the dark color in these creases makes them significantly more prominent than with my other Walnut Strands from Allen Edmonds. Can you see how there is a lot of black or otherwise not-Walnut coloration across much of the toes and vamp? Particularly in the creases between the medallion and the laces.

I have tried a variety of products but generally with light applications because I wasn't sure what might help and what might hurt. Between each product application I waited 24 hours to ensure the shoes were "dry" from the previous attempt when necessary. I've tried Saphir Reno'Mat, Lexol Conditioner, Allen Edmonds Conditioner / Cleaner, and Meltonian Brown cream. My gut thinks it's either leather that is actually stripped of dye, but then I would have expected the Meltonian to have a bigger effect, or it is left over (dark) polish from the previous owner but I would have thought the Reno'mat or other products would have taken care of this. Again, I only used the Reno'Mat and the Meltonian in light amounts so if directed I could certainly use them more liberally. For what it's worth, the leather still feels healthy and nowhere near cracking or significant damage. Any direction would be greatly appreciated!


I had a pair of walnut Flatirons. The smooth leather just seems to show the creases a little more. It could be that they were brushed with the same brush that was used on dark shoes, and that embedded the darker color in the creases. I don't think that you can remove it.
I loved my Flatirons, but after polishing them I decided that they would look even better if they were a little darker. So I dyed them.
post #18163 of 19272
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Originally Posted by NeyZan View Post


Just keep Trying you are in the right path...

 

Thanks for the words of encouragement and inspirational photos :) I definitely spent more than one hour on one shoe, but I've read that first time shine usually takes longer. Plus, I'm sure I still have a lot of work to do on my technique. One thing I'm not sure about is whether I should let it rest in between the polishes. Let's say I do a dab of polish and a drop of water and polish for 2-3 min with adding more water once or twice. Should I continue with more polish after that or let the layer solidify first?

post #18164 of 19272
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Originally Posted by jb1987 View Post
 

Hey Guys! I know some of you will be a little annoyed at my post, but I have read through some of this thread but there is just so much information and I just want a quick response for my specific needs. I am a finance student and have a few pairs of "ok" shoes to the standards of this forum haha. Obviously I do not have a lot to spend on shoes at the moment. I am also starting a paid internship this summer so I would like to fix up what I do own. Just today I actually purchased a pair of Paul Evans Martin wholecut in marrone.

 

The shoes I have are black johnston murphy wing tips, black johnston murphy melton cap toe which I actually purchased on Ebay for about $60.

A brown pair of Aldos and the grey/blueish pair are Steve madden. I would like to know what a quality brush/shoe kit would be that is not too expensive and specifically which brushes I need and if you guys use polishing clothes or just old shirts. I also need polish and other shoe care items. I know Saphir is popular but not sure on the best place to purchase or colors to get (besides black).

 

I am planning on buying the renovator but what about for the suede? Also how do I get stains out of the leather or on the denim material on the blue shoes?

 

From the pictures the problems I have are the Melton cap toes have some scuffs I would like to get out if possible and hopefully prevent in the future. It upsets me that they scuff so easily.

The brown aldos I actually used to wear a lot when I went out and spilled certain beverages on them and now they are stained. If there is a way to fix these up please let me know. The top part is suede. 3rd picture is true to color.

For the grey shoes I think they are some sort of denim material and suede.

 

Basically I would just like a little guidance and list of what to buy and where. I live in Arizona if there is anywhere to buy Saphir products here. For the Paul Evans Marrone color would you buy a specific color of wax or just neutral? Also, should I buy both cream and wax? Cream in specific color and wax in neutral? Any help is appreciated! Thanks!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hey guys sorry for bringing this up again but I would really like some help. I am going to order a pair of Meermin shoes (thinking about double monks in the chestnut antique calf) and saphir is cheaper from them than in the US. Shipping will be the same so might as well throw it in! I want to know what I should get to start. I was thinking renovator, black creme, black wax, neutral creme and wax, and should I get a brown wax or creme for the brown shoes to fix the stains? If so which color? What color for the meermins?  I also have a pair of Paul Evans wholecut Marrone http://www.paulevansny.com/products/the-martin-wholecut-marrone?s=recomatic coming on wednesday. What color (s) would you suggest for these and what would you do to them when they arrive? Thanks!

post #18165 of 19272

I would say wax. Creme has lesser colour pigment if that is what you are going for. As for colour, i will ask Meermin to recommend the closest.

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