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Could be magical thinking, but if it is, it sure seems to have fooled a lot of smart people.

A lot of smart people seem to want to be fooled.

Is that smart?
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Originally Posted by DWFII View Post

A lot of smart people seem to want to be fooled.

Is that smart?

Really helpful post. So glad you responded to my question.
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Really helpful post. So glad you responded to my question.

It was just a general observation, nothing personal about it.

As I've gotten older I've become increasingly philosophic. I make no apologies for that. Tradition holds that when a man turns 70...if he turns 70...he's entitled.

edited for punctuation and clarity
Edited by DWFII - 1/31/16 at 12:04pm
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Hello SF. I love my AE Dalton boots but I want to know how this creasing looks fine to u guys. The left boot seems alright but the right boot seems to be creasing in front of the wingtip. What do you guys think?
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Really helpful post. So glad you responded to my question.

Not trying to get into a debate, but DWFs comments read to me that he doesn't see the value in a deer bone and that other people who do value them maybe seeing what they want to see. Or perhaps assigning properties to a bone when it's really no better than the back of a spoon. 

 

I have one and have tried using it to get rid of some scuffs. I can say that it seemed to help in some cases. I can't say that it helped any more than a spoon or my finger would have. And after reading here that somebody scratched their shell shoes with one I'm not getting mine near my shell. Note that I am a new to this and am just trying to not damage my shoes. 

 

High end audio is one of my hobbies. People swear by the differences in cables. There's no measurable difference between two adequate cables. And when you blind-test people the audible differences disappear. Yet they swear their cables are better. It's a desire to believe. I think DWF is implying that deer bone may be similar for some people. 

 

Not 70, so I maybe I'm starting early. Or perhaps just a pedantic windbag. 


Edited by Dario65 - 1/31/16 at 12:07pm
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I don't want to be seen as a brown noser, but I have learned almost all I know about shoe care from this site. With thanks and kind regards, Munky. 

As with most things, I think messing around with any part of your footwear offers more opportunity for poor results than better ones. I did an experiment a while back oiling some soles and leaving others alone. The left alone ones lasted longer. I just attribute it to the oils softening the leather. Walking on softer leather probably just makes it wear faster. I mean, it makes sense to me. The only time I would really oil soles if you're going to do it at all is after they get wet and you've let them dry. I'd also do it sparingly.

I will add that I have used leather honey on my leather sole maybe once a year and I kind of stopped after folks on here made the logical explanation of loose leather fiber will wear quicker...what I have noticed is that my non leather honey soles do not grip as well and I will get a little more slipping.

I guess that would give some more backup to the fact that the oil will loosen the nap and wear faster. I rarely ever slip in leather soles anyway so no big deal...just an observation.
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Hello SF. I love my AE Dalton boots but I want to know how this creasing looks fine to u guys. The left boot seems alright but the right boot seems to be creasing in front of the wingtip. What do you guys think?

It is fine...no issue there at all
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Originally Posted by Dario65 View Post

Not trying to get into a debate, but DWFs comments read to me that he doesn't see the value in a deer bone and that other people who do value them maybe seeing what they want to see. Or perhaps assigning properties to a bone when it's really no better than the back of a spoon. 

I have one and have tried using it to get rid of some scuffs. I can say that it seemed to help in some cases. I can't say that it helped any more than a spoon or my finger would have. And after reading here that somebody scratched their shell shoes with one I'm not getting mine near my shell. Note that I am a new to this and am just trying to not damage my shoes. 

High end audio is one of my hobbies. People swear by the differences in cables. There's no measurable difference between two adequate cables. And when you blind-test people the audible differences disappear. Yet they swear their cables are better. It's a desire to believe. I think DWF is implying that deer bone may be similar for some people. 

Not 70, so I maybe I'm starting early. Or perhaps just a pedantic windbag. 

Cables makes no difference if they are properly shielded. Simple science.

Placebo effect is real in shoe care products as well.
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Cables makes no difference if they are properly shielded. Simple science.

Placebo effect is real in shoe care products as well.

Not just shoe care products, placebo effect is everywhere. 

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Cables makes no difference if they are properly shielded. Simple science.

Placebo effect is real in shoe care products as well.

Absolutely agree. The cables I'm referring to generally aren't shielded, but the point is the same (speaker, power. analog interconnects). Noise levels or not a factor audibly and blind testing takes all the bias out. 

 

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Not just shoe care products, placebo effect is everywhere. 

Agreed. And we're all guilty of it to some extent. 

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Can someone tell me how to take care waxed leather boots and particularly CJ Tetbury?
It says that's wax calf and and I've tried to use creme on it but it's not absorbing it. Next day when I run my finger on the boot the black stuff is on my finger. Not good. I don't have that problem with my Norwich. I have other problems with them and I would upload pics of it soon. I did perchsed a few pairs of CJ and I really like the shoes and how solid they are build. Those are my first Goodyear welted shoes but it might not be as good as all think. Heels splitting from the sole it's not acceptable in my standards. I am used to Italian and Spanish made but waned to give English shoes a go. I don't want to talk bad just yet but the way it's going I might not be getting no more of them.
Also I treat my shoes better then I treat myself.
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Can someone tell me how to take care waxed leather boots and particularly CJ Tetbury?
It says that's wax calf and and I've tried to use creme on it but it's not absorbing it. Next day when I run my finger on the boot the black stuff is on my finger. Not good. I don't have that problem with my Norwich. I have other problems with them and I would upload pics of it soon. I did perchsed a few pairs of CJ and I really like the shoes and how solid they are build. Those are my first Goodyear welted shoes but it might not be as good as all think. Heels splitting from the sole it's not acceptable in my standards. I am used to Italian and Spanish made but waned to give English shoes a go. I don't want to talk bad just yet but the way it's going I might not be getting no more of them.
Also I treat my shoes better then I treat myself.

I use obenoff hdlp on my waxed boots..love the stuff. These are boots that see lots of rain and snow and always stay great.
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Can anyone recomend a product to make these C&J Pembrokes a little more water resistant?

 

They are made from tan scotch grain leather and any little spots of water seem to imediately soak in to the leather and create a dark spot until it dries.  Is there a product from the Saphir range that will add some water resistance without excessive darkening?

 

What about Saphir Huile Protectrice HP Leather Oil Spray, or Saphir Invulner Stain and Waterproofing Spray?

 

The shoes already have a layer of Saphir cream polish all over and wax on the caps/heels.

 

ETA photo of shoes

post #17669 of 19067
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Originally Posted by Cerpico View Post

Can someone tell me how to take care waxed leather boots and particularly CJ Tetbury?
It says that's wax calf and and I've tried to use creme on it but it's not absorbing it. Next day when I run my finger on the boot the black stuff is on my finger. Not good. I don't have that problem with my Norwich. I have other problems with them and I would upload pics of it soon. I did perchsed a few pairs of CJ and I really like the shoes and how solid they are build. Those are my first Goodyear welted shoes but it might not be as good as all think. Heels splitting from the sole it's not acceptable in my standards. I am used to Italian and Spanish made but waned to give English shoes a go. I don't want to talk bad just yet but the way it's going I might not be getting no more of them.
Also I treat my shoes better then I treat myself.

 

  Waxed calf wont absorb cream-lotions in a big quantity! Less is more when it comes to waxed calf and shell cordovan is the golden rule !! You can use  wax to give them a shine if you want and a really light lotion twice a year!

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Originally Posted by EnglishShoes View Post
 

Can anyone recomend a product to make these C&J Pembrokes a little more water resistant?

 

They are made from tan scotch grain leather and any little spots of water seem to imediately soak in to the leather and create a dark spot until it dries.  Is there a product from the Saphir range that will add some water resistance without excessive darkening?

 

What about Saphir Huile Protectrice HP Leather Oil Spray, or Saphir Invulner Stain and Waterproofing Spray?

 

The shoes already have a layer of Saphir cream polish all over and wax on the caps/heels.

 

ETA photo of shoes

  Dubbin is a great option but it a little tricky in usage and it ll darken your shoes a little!! If you dont want darkening a waterproofing spray is the way to go!! Oils ll darken your shoes 2-3 shades or even more than dubbin!

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Originally Posted by Kahuna75 View Post

It is fine...no issue there at all



Probably nothing but what about when the wingtip creases like this? I'm afraid that it will get worse over time.
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