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Originally Posted by chogall View Post
 


Fading at the creases is normal.  Suede also loses color from suede shampoos. 

 

Otherwise, use very stiff bristle brush or brass brush to raise the naps.  Suede spray helps as well.


Thanks for replying, I am using crepe brushes, and I think suede spray can not be applied too often? the smell is not very pleasant.​

 

I took care not to stain my shoes and Invulner spray have fended off small drops of water, so far they have never get that dirty to require shampoo washing.

post #17147 of 19050
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Thanks for replying, I am using crepe brushes, and I think suede spray can not be applied too often? the smell is not very pleasant.​

I took care not to stain my shoes and Invulner spray have fended off small drops of water, so far they have never get that dirty to require shampoo washing.

Yeah I wouldn't OD on that suede spray. I use once per year; I own more than 20 pairs of shoes tho.

Brass brush raise the nap better than crepe. Crepe feels more like cleaning/brushing the top layer of suede and brass gets deep into the leather.
post #17148 of 19050

Guys is the UGG care kit good for all suede shoes? Looking to protect some Lanvins. Also what would you guys recommend doing for some low top Balenciaga arenas? Should I be using moisturizer on the leather?

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Was there drama I missed?

 

Yes, there was a major falling out a month or two ago, that ended in tears. 


Edited by Munky - 11/10/15 at 12:43pm
post #17150 of 19050
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Originally Posted by Munky View Post

I do miss the regular contributions from DW, Patrick Booth and Travers.  If Travers still looks at these pages, I hope that the moderator will allow him to rejoin the thread. And perhaps, DW and PB can be persuaded to return to a more regular series of postings. 

I second this minus the Travers bit, I'd also appreciate more from you @Munky.

I'll try to post more as well.
post #17151 of 19050
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Yes, there was a major falling out a month or two again, that ended in tears.

No tears, leastwise not that I saw (and I had my hanky ready to offer to anyone who needed it). Just a creeping sense of fatigue.

I think I can somewhat speak for pB when I wonder what in the world either of us can possibly offer that the e-experts and google gurus can't?

If every time a person reaches out...generously, esp. in pB's case...to offer advice that is based on a lifetime of real, objective, hands-on experience and they are contradicted and gain-sayed by people whose breadth and depth of knowledge is limited to "visiting shoe factories"...well, it's discouraging, is all I can say. It slowly erodes your faith in humanity and its capacity for rationality and objectivity.

Who needs it? I already, and long since, raised two teenagers. I did my time.

That said, I'll always talk to you, Munky...as the song says "just call out my name..."
post #17152 of 19050

welcome dw from sweet home

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welcome dw from sweet home

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post #17154 of 19050
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Originally Posted by Munky View Post
 

 

Yes, there was a major falling out a month or two again, that ended in tears. 

 

Actually, there was no fall out.  Maybe some feelings were hurt when unverified but authoritatively-made claims were proven much exaggerated.  Thus some very personal attacks thrown by some.  Travers, on the other hand, somehow snapped and flipped randomly on some random posters.

 

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No tears, leastwise not that I saw (and I had my hanky ready to offer to anyone who needed it). Just a creeping sense of fatigue.

I think I can somewhat speak for pB when I wonder what in the world either of us can possibly offer that the e-experts and google gurus can't?

If every time a person reaches out...generously, esp. in pB's case...to offer advice that is based on a lifetime of real, objective, hands-on experience and they are contradicted and gain-sayed by people whose breadth and depth of knowledge is limited to "visiting shoe factories"...well, it's discouraging, is all I can say. It slowly erodes your faith in humanity and its capacity for rationality and objectivity.

Who needs it? I already, and long since, raised two teenagers. I did my time.

That said, I'll always talk to you, Munky...as the song says "just call out my name..."

 

Objective and rational discussions be damned.  First, state your position, counter any opposition with argumentum ad hominem, and in the cases that didnt discourage the opposition, throw your decades of shoemaking experience around subjects, ranging from shoemaking, to orthotics making, all the way to chemistry and material science.

 

I asked for verification of pB's claim, that's all. 

post #17155 of 19050

^Sigh...

post #17156 of 19050

How would I care for these shoes? They are the AE "Grid Iron."

 

post #17157 of 19050
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Originally Posted by shoelover View Post
 

How would I care for these shoes? They are the AE "Grid Iron."

 

 

Like all other shoes.  Use shoe horns to put them on, use shoe trees after wear, and occasionally condition and wax.  Lexol/Bick4, any clear wax or mid brown wax will be fine.

post #17158 of 19050
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post
 

 

Like all other shoes.  Use shoe horns to put them on, use shoe trees after wear, and occasionally condition and wax.  Lexol/Bick4, any clear wax or mid brown wax will be fine.


Thanks

post #17159 of 19050
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

Objective and rational discussions be damned.  First, state your position, counter any opposition with argumentum ad hominem, and in the cases that didnt discourage the opposition, throw your decades of shoemaking experience around subjects, ranging from shoemaking, to orthotics making, all the way to chemistry and material science.

I asked for verification of pB's claim, that's all. 

As compared to what? Unsubstantiated blather? That's where you're coming from again and again. You argue with people without even knowing the basics. As I recall, you didn't even know what a "base" was when you started arguing with pB about alkalinity. Never sewn an inseam, English or otherwise, and yet you feel qualified to bloviate about a strictly cosmetic technique making the inseam tighter and more waterproof. I'll say it again...BOGUS!

And yes, indeed, the "argument" has to go "to the man"...esp. to the man who won't take responsibility for what he says. Who doesn't have any basis but pipe dreams and speculation to be prattling

That's what Asimov's famous quote means--people with no sense of responsibility insisting that their opinions are every bit as valid and worth listening to as someone who has actually walked the walk and done the work and earned the knowledge.

Once more for relevance:
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"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'" - Isaac Asimov, column in Newsweek (21 January 1980)

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Edited by DWFII - 11/10/15 at 3:20pm
post #17160 of 19050

Any way to get creases out of the heel of a boot? Anyway to prevent it or is it inevitable? 

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