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Originally Posted by M635Guy View Post
 

I have a pair of Johnston and Murphy Hutchins longwings (now discontinued, but info here: https://www.johnstonmurphy.com/hutchins-wingtip/7986.html) I bought about 18 months ago.

 

(showing the spot also - this was taken shortly after the Saphir was applied.  It is much less noticeable when fully dry)

 

Thanks in advance for help/opinions!

 The shoes looks in good shape according to the uppers!! You need to re heel them for sure (the rubber worn ed down) and except that if you continue to use them you ll have to replace the heel stuck ,  its not good for your body balance too!! + you have to fix the lining at the heel part !! 

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Hi guys.
I've read so many posts in this thread for several hours. Basically I found many useful information, but I have specific situation since I live in South-eastern Europe and all of those fancy shoe products are not available here. 

After shoes are waxed what can be used to remove old layer of wax before re-waxing it again(I will have to re-wax once a week since I don't have a dozen of shoes, just like one for each year season)

Maybe detergent with slightly warm water or just water? Cause I guess brushing dirt wont be enough. I'm pointing out again that no particular shoe cleaner/conditioner can be found here :( 

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Hi guys.
I've read so many posts in this thread for several hours. Basically I found many useful information, but I have specific situation since I live in South-eastern Europe and all of those fancy shoe products are not available here. 

After shoes are waxed what can be used to remove old layer of wax before re-waxing it again(I will have to re-wax once a week since I don't have a dozen of shoes, just like one for each year season)

Maybe detergent with slightly warm water or just water? Cause I guess brushing dirt wont be enough. I'm pointing out again that no particular shoe cleaner/conditioner can be found here :( 

 

Where in Europe?  I'd expect Saphir products (from France) are easier to get there than the US.  That's where I'd start...

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Bosnia&Herzegovina... on the other side of Adriatic Sea. Believe me it's not. People here would just take their shoes to cobbler and in the meantime take very poor maintenance of their shoes, like using just spray for everything or creaming like hundreds of time without removing previous polish and you can guess how much it will last...

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Is it necessary to put polish wax on entire shoes or just scratch-vulnerable areas (the toe and heel) is fine? My routine has been applying Renovateur all over the shoes for conditioning and only wax polish the toe and heel section for shining.
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Originally Posted by Deany View Post
 

Bosnia&Herzegovina... on the other side of Adriatic Sea. Believe me it's not. People here would just take their shoes to cobbler and in the meantime take very poor maintenance of their shoes, like using just spray for everything or creaming like hundreds of time without removing previous polish and you can guess how much it will last...

 

I'd think you can get Saphir in a bigger city in Italy or Hungary/Austria.  I know those aren't super-close, but if you or any friends go somewhere like that on holiday you might be able to bring some back to where you live.

 

There are some good threads on reddit/goodyear welt.

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/goodyearwelt/comments/1qrl4f/teach_me_about_leather_care/

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/goodyearwelt/comments/1zu8oh/application_of_coconut_oil_as_a_leather/

 

The coconut oil might be a chance for you to use something you can find in your home.  I've never tried it myself.

post #16672 of 19038
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Originally Posted by jokb View Post

One thing you can try is Saphir's renovating cream. it's what I use to patch up tears. Just pick the right color and apply it carefully so that it blends in well.

Thank you, I think I've heard about this product. Do you have any idea if this is a more of a cosmetic product or a protecting product? For example do you think it would help prevent further damage? I ask because the area his a "high crease" area and I'm curious if the product would hold up under those conditions.

Thank you
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Good question.

 

I do not know wich of them (I would add Kiwi, Burgol and Lincoln) has more concentration of pigments.

 

I use Saphir too.

 

 

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For adding color, do people prefer Meltonian, Saphir, Glenkaren, or some other cream?

 

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Originally Posted by Zapasman View Post
 

 

Good question.

 

I do not know wich of them (I would add Kiwi, Burgol and Lincoln) has more concentration of pigments.

 

I use Saphir too.

I contacted Avel.  Out of their large range of products the one that has more concentration of pigments is the Renovating Cream (Recolorant). 

post #16674 of 19038

Hello All,

 

I've recently acquired a pair of shell cordovan AE Dalton boots secondhand, and it seems the previous owner used some sort of polish or cream.  The effects were as expected - the beautiful shell luster was replaced with a thick, cloudy, and tacky residue.  Here are how they looked upon receipt:

 

 

 

After cleaning with a damp rag and giving an initial brush, I went after the boots with some Saphir Renovateur.  Two and a half gunked-filled rags and a few hours of brushing later, they are markedly improved.  But there is still a long ways to go:

 

 

 

As you can see, the beautiful luster is still covered by waxy, hazy, cloudy, and tacky to the touch residue.  To demonstrate even further, here are two more pictures.  The first is a side shot immediately after some vigorous brushing:

 

 

Now, the same side, after merely brushing my fingers from top to bottom:

 

 

 

The cloudy residue of whatever it is that the previous owner put on these boots is clearly seen.

 

So now, I come here looking for advice on what to do next.  Are there any other similar experiences by fellow members?  Does anyone have any suggested product (perhaps less expensive and more effective than Renovateur)?

 

Thank you to everyone in advance, and I am happy to be a part of the Forum!

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The cloudy residue of whatever it is that the previous owner put on these boots is clearly seen.

 

So now, I come here looking for advice on what to do next.  Are there any other similar experiences by fellow members?  Does anyone have any suggested product (perhaps less expensive and more effective than Renovateur)?

 

Thank you to everyone in advance, and I am happy to be a part of the Forum!

 

my guess would be the gunk was some kind of boot oil/wax.

 

Given all the solvents/cream you have used to remove the same, a good reason why it's still not shining, might be that they are just wet from the solvents in renovateur and need to dry. The closeup of teh vamp suggests the same as well. Perhaps let the boots dry and try buffing them in a couple of days?

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Originally Posted by sleepyinsanfran View Post

my guess would be the gunk was some kind of boot oil/wax.

Given all the solvents/cream you have used to remove the same, a good reason why it's still not shining, might be that they are just wet from the solvents in renovateur and need to dry. The closeup of teh vamp suggests the same as well. Perhaps let the boots dry and try buffing them in a couple of days?


I worried that it may be some sort of boot oil. What are the chances I can entirely rid of it? And I hadn't thought about the possibility of using TOO much Renovateur... shog[1].gif

Hopefully I can stay patient enough to wait a few days. If there's anything remaining, would anyone suggest my using a light bit of renomat?
post #16678 of 19038
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Originally Posted by nbj08 View Post

Two and a half gunked-filled rags and a few hours of brushing later, they are markedly improved.
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Does anyone have any suggested product (perhaps less expensive and more effective than Renovateur)?

First off, I'm not sure you should even be using Renovateur on shell. If you need to strip off whatever the previous owner did to them you should use Renomat, which is a cleaner, rather than Renovateur, which is primarily a conditioner. "Two and a half gunked-filled rags" sounds like you are using waaayy too much product anyway, unless that's all product from the previous owner being removed.
post #16679 of 19038
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Originally Posted by Fred G. Unn View Post

First off, I'm not sure you should even be using Renovateur on shell. If you need to strip off whatever the previous owner did to them you should use Renomat, which is a cleaner, rather than Renovateur, which is primarily a conditioner. "Two and a half gunked-filled rags" sounds like you are using waaayy too much product anyway, unless that's all product from the previous owner being removed.


It's entirely from the previous owner. I haven't applied any additional product. If I do at all, it'll be a very small amount of my AE cordovan cream that I use on all my shell. Otherwise, just brushing from me (once I get the old stuff off).

Thank you for the renomat recommendation! Once these pups dry out, I'll use the Reno and report back on my progress.

And if anyone else has insights, please share!
post #16680 of 19038
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Originally Posted by nbj08 View Post

It's entirely from the previous owner. I haven't applied any additional product. If I do at all, it'll be a very small amount of my AE cordovan cream that I use on all my shell. Otherwise, just brushing from me (once I get the old stuff off).

Thank you for the renomat recommendation! Once these pups dry out, I'll use the Reno and report back on my progress.

And if anyone else has insights, please share!

Personally, I would just start wearing regularly with normal brush/buff regimen after wearing. After a while, they'll start to come around.

They already look much better as is. I think others may have a point about the leather not being dry yet. My color 8 Bradley's looked like that immediately after getting a lexol treatment.
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