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And you are right about hard wearing. If a pair of shoes was heavily conditioned, I would expect to walk more miles in it as well.

My RM Williams upper started to crack after 5 years and was under almost weekly Renovateur/Lexol and worn about once per week. My old Prada ultra corrected grain shoes did not crack at all, without much conditioning over the years.

Heavily conditioned leather might breakdown faster due to moisture saturation.

YMMV.
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Welcome to styleforum, where many owns more than 10 pairs of good shoes.

Oh, and low quality plastic shoes will last longer than leather. Ugly tho.

Don't see any of those shoes are with any kind of quality in them, at all. Just because they cost big money and look horny to the eye does not guarantee their services.

No, plastic don't last longer. They were already deteriorated by the time you wore your leathers out. 

 

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My RM Williams upper started to crack after 5 years and was under almost weekly Renovateur/Lexol and worn about once per week. My old Prada ultra corrected grain shoes did not crack at all, without much conditioning over the years.

Heavily conditioned leather might breakdown faster due to moisture saturation.

YMMV.

Renovateur... Oh good old story of Renovateur, where the shit storm with Copeland began several years ago... And what the hell kind of a regimen that dictates conditioning weekly? Do you stroll the street in that thing 5 days straight a week?

 

Who doesn't know over conditioning would damage leather? 

 

I don't see how mileage varies, only experiences.  

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Don't see any of those shoes are with any kind of quality in them, at all. Just because they cost big money and look horny to the eye does not guarantee their services.

 

Educate us on what make quality shoes?  Or who make quality shoes?  Or show us some of the shoes you see quality in them?

 

There are plenty of people owning dozens of Vass, EG, or G&G shoes on this forum...

 

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No, plastic don't last longer. They were already deteriorated by the time you wore your leathers out. 

 

Last time that I checked, people topy their shoe soles so it could last longer between resoles.  But seems like you believe that leather soles wears longer than topy or other plastic/rubber soles.

 

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Renovateur... Oh good old story of Renovateur, where the shit storm with Copeland began several years ago... And what the hell kind of a regimen that dictates conditioning weekly? Do you stroll the street in that thing 5 days straight a week?

 

The shitstorm began when people ruined their brand new shoes following someone's "Presidential Shoe Shine" routine.  Don't place such a high value on your work.

 

I used to maintain my shoes weekly.

 

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Who doesn't know over conditioning would damage leather? 

 

You called for heavily conditioned leathers to last longer.  Now you agree that over conditioning would damage leather.  So in your experience what's sets the difference between heavily conditioned vs over conditioning?

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YMMV, for office workers or suburban warriors that sounds excessive.

 

The only sure way to prolong shoes useful life is to have a lot of them.

 

Yes.  5-10 wears for polish.  5-10 months more like it for "conditioning".  A quick brush after wearing is 90% of shoe maintenance in my world: a stiff brush on the sole and welt to knock any grit out, and a tickle of horsehair on the upper.  They're shoes, not children. :)

 

Not a bad approach to child care either...feed em, clothe em, knock the dirt off em once a day and you're golden!!

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Not a bad approach to child care either...feed em, clothe em, knock the dirt off em once a day and you're golden!!

 

Love it!   :crackup:

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Educate us on what make quality shoes?  Or who make quality shoes?  Or show us some of the shoes you see quality in them?

 

There are plenty of people owning dozens of Vass, EG, or G&G shoes on this forum...

 

 

Last time that I checked, people topy their shoe soles so it could last longer between resoles.  But seems like you believe that leather soles wears longer than topy or other plastic/rubber soles.

 

 

The shitstorm began when people ruined their brand new shoes following someone's "Presidential Shoe Shine" routine.  Don't place such a high value on your work.

 

I used to maintain my shoes weekly.

 

 

You called for heavily conditioned leathers to last longer.  Now you agree that over conditioning would damage leather.  So in your experience what's sets the difference between heavily conditioned vs over conditioning?

If you only wear your shoes once per week why the hell maintain them on such strict regimen?

 

Yes, I do hold the belief on leather sole, but it depends largely on what kind of leather for soling. Did you even ask me about such evaluation?

 

My work? What the fuck do you mean by my work? I don't do presidential shoe shine bullshit. I do what seems to be effective and had been done before. If my experiment works, I have the right to value it high. However, you forgot my important statement regarding my influences and your shoes.

 

Heavily conditioned uppers last longer via proper way of cleaning, conditioning, protecting, and proper amount of time wearing it before re-treating it. Heavily conditioned also implies many light coatings, thoroughly rubbed in, and correctly brushed to a dry, clean surface. Over conditioning means the shit sits without doing a damn. 

 

I hope certain explanations here gives you something that may fit your eyes.

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Not a bad approach to child care either...feed em, clothe em, knock the dirt off em once a day and you're golden!!

And 20 years from the day you made that approach, you're left with a bunch of raw hides walking.

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Not a bad approach to child care either...feed em, clothe em, knock the dirt off em once a day and you're golden!!

And 20 years from the day you made that approach, you're left with a bunch of raw hides walking.

 

I've already raised a 25 and 22 yr old and they're remarkably well rounded given their parentage.

 

I now have a 4 and 2 yr old underway...no rawhide yet, my wife makes sure they're lotioned to within an inch of their little lives!

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I've already raised a 25 and 22 yr old and they're remarkably well rounded given their parentage.

 

I now have a 4 and 2 yr old underway...no rawhide yet, my wife makes sure they're lotioned to within an inch of their little lives!

Wish you successes in parenting, dear sir. 

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I've already raised a 25 and 22 yr old and they're remarkably well rounded given their parentage.

 

I now have a 4 and 2 yr old underway...no rawhide yet, my wife makes sure they're lotioned to within an inch of their little lives!

Wish you successes in parenting, dear sir.

 

Thank you, I believe I'm half way there!

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Layered, in my experience, the kids are mostly OK once they reach 35. Or so. :)

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Layered, in my experience, the kids are mostly OK once they reach 35. Or so. :)

 

I believe you're right, it took me about that long!

 

John Mellencamp said that most men weren't worth a damn until they were 40 or their fathers died, whichever came first.

 

Interesting take.

 

Now enough about parenting and more about SHOES!!

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