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post #14611 of 19073
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Originally Posted by traverscao View Post

Pat, I've always wondered, is rubbing alcohol as sufficient in terms of removal of old polishes as denatured alcohol? I've been using denatured alcohol, amongst other stripping agents, but not yet tried the rubbing alcohol.

It's fine, especially just for a bit too much wax on a toe. He doesn't need stripping right down to the grain. Why use something harsher if it isn't necessary?
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Originally Posted by pnewelljr View Post

So Lexol is different than? I always just thought both were conditioners. I am a little nervous about soaking in water and vinegar, wont that make the leather shrink or something?

Renovateur is allegedly a conditioner, but it is honestly more of a polish. Lexol is a water based emulsion with no wax in it. It is meant to penetrate into leather and stay there. Renovateur is a polish with a bit of oil content. I haven't had "luck" with it in the conditioning department.

You need to plump up the leather fibers so water and vinegar is meant to due that while maintaining a leather safe pH. Leather shrinks because of alkaline overexposure, the vinegar will keep this from happening. After doing this, I'd recommend a conditioner like Lexol or Bick4.

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Originally Posted by SonniHS View Post

Thanks :-)

One question remain: should I use Renomat or is renovateur enough for my shoe? Can't find Renomat anywhere in Danish webshops.

Renomat is a stripper with acetone in it. It is not a necessary shoe care product unless you're experimenting or caking your shoes with so much polish that you need to strip it away.
post #14612 of 19073
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

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Originally Posted by traverscao View Post

Pat, I've always wondered, is rubbing alcohol as sufficient in terms of removal of old polishes as denatured alcohol? I've been using denatured alcohol, amongst other stripping agents, but not yet tried the rubbing alcohol.

It's fine, especially just for a bit too much wax on a toe. He doesn't need stripping right down to the grain. Why use something harsher if it isn't necessary?
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Originally Posted by pnewelljr View Post

So Lexol is different than? I always just thought both were conditioners. I am a little nervous about soaking in water and vinegar, wont that make the leather shrink or something?

Renovateur is allegedly a conditioner, but it is honestly more of a polish. Lexol is a water based emulsion with no wax in it. It is meant to penetrate into leather and stay there. Renovateur is a polish with a bit of oil content. I haven't had "luck" with it in the conditioning department.

You need to plump up the leather fibers so water and vinegar is meant to due that while maintaining a leather safe pH. Leather shrinks because of alkaline overexposure, the vinegar will keep this from happening. After doing this, I'd recommend a conditioner like Lexol or Bick4.

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Originally Posted by SonniHS View Post

Thanks :-)

One question remain: should I use Renomat or is renovateur enough for my shoe? Can't find Renomat anywhere in Danish webshops.

Renomat is a stripper with acetone in it. It is not a necessary shoe care product unless you're experimenting or caking your shoes with so much polish that you need to strip it away.

Instead of a ruined shoe, I am learning - happy days! :-)

So rubbing alcohol would be a better option in my case? Which then is the same as isopropyl alcohol 99%?
post #14613 of 19073
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Originally Posted by pnewelljr View Post
 

So Lexol is different than? I always just thought both were conditioners. I am a little nervous about soaking in water and vinegar, wont that make the leather shrink or something?

Lexol is more of an emulsified oil, think neatsfoot oil that had its properties altered to be mixed with water for sufficient penetration without leaving too much residue on the surface. It certainly conditions a lot better than Renovateur, because of its fluid characteristic, and because it is nothing more than oils and water. Reno, on the other hand, was made too "dry" - it dries in minutes as opposed to Lexol, which could take up to a day - and thus, applying too much will leave a thick finish on the surface, and too little will leave the leather in vulnerable state. 

 

The reason I love Glen's conditioner is 1). because it was made with raw oils (not a fetish, but a personal preference), and 2). because it nourish the leather properly while giving a shine. I grease my dress shoes per heavy maintenance that would include stripping, but then again, it's just me, I don't recommend people doing it if they don't feel comfortable with it, or had bad results in attempts doing it. Working with raw oils and grease can be so much more a pain than anything. Therefore, products like Hydrator that Pat recommends, or Lexol, even Bick4 is much more suitable in terms of restoring a seriously huge amount of oils back into leathers.

 

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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post


It's fine, especially just for a bit too much wax on a toe. He doesn't need stripping right down to the grain. Why use something harsher if it isn't necessary?

I usually dilute the denatured alcohol with 50% distilled water. I thought if one needs to remove mirror finish, hence heavy solvents. Otherwise I wouldn't opt for denatured alcohol(mixed or alone by itself).

 

Was rubbing alcohol mixed with another substance in it? 

post #14614 of 19073
I think you both are thinking too deeply into this rubbing alcohol. Use vodka if it is laying around. Any rubbing alcohol will be fine on a cap toe for removing a bit of polish. It isn't like you're prepping the shoe for a re-dye.
post #14615 of 19073
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

I think you both are thinking too deeply into this rubbing alcohol. Use vodka if it is laying around. Any rubbing alcohol will be fine on a cap toe for removing a bit of polish. It isn't like you're prepping the shoe for a re-dye.

That being said, with today's drum dyed struck through leathers, there are no need of re dying the leather as well LOL!!

 

Vodka? I prefer Johnnie Walker, because I'm a narcissistic asshole!         :rotflmao: 

post #14616 of 19073
how bad an idea is it to only have 2 pairs of shoes in rotation for a 5 day work week? confused.gif
post #14617 of 19073

Honestly, I'd say it depends on whether if you are driving to work, or walking and taking public transportation.

post #14618 of 19073
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

I think you both are thinking too deeply into this rubbing alcohol. Use vodka if it is laying around. Any rubbing alcohol will be fine on a cap toe for removing a bit of polish. It isn't like you're prepping the shoe for a re-dye.

For me it's also a translation thing, as I wasn't sure what rubbing alcohol covered exactly.

So, I'll search my apartment for alcohol :-D
post #14619 of 19073

I've seen quite a few pairs of shoes that have a lighter color to raised areas, like across the toe creases in the pic below.  Is this a sign of cheap leather or corrected grain?  I'm trying to decide if these shoes are real alligator, incidentally.

post #14620 of 19073
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Originally Posted by traverscao View Post

Honestly, I'd say it depends on whether if you are driving to work, or walking and taking public transportation.

driving, 99% of the time.
post #14621 of 19073

No need to worry, then. Keep them brushing nicely, and polish them routinely. 

post #14622 of 19073
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Originally Posted by Jurgis View Post

I've seen quite a few pairs of shoes that have a lighter color to raised areas, like across the toe creases in the pic below.  Is this a sign of cheap leather or corrected grain?  I'm trying to decide if these shoes are real alligator, incidentally.


Hard to say, some shoes are lightly corrected without a shellack. It would be hard to guess without knowing where they came from. Regardless, those are hideous.
post #14623 of 19073
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post


Hard to say, some shoes are lightly corrected without a shellack. It would be hard to guess without knowing where they came from. Regardless, those are hideous.

Agreed.  I would never wear these myself, but they do resell.  There is no accounting for taste.

post #14624 of 19073
Thanks :-)

One question remain: should I use Renomat or is renovateur enough for my shoe? Can't find Renomat anywhere in Danish webshops.[/quote]

Where you are at the moment, I would just skip the renomat or alcohol, you have too little product on your shoe rather than too much. Just prep the surface and polish back up.
If you had too much product of a wrong color or a poor brand of polish as a original coat, or a yearly maintenance where you wanted to strip down before building, yea use renomat.


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post #14625 of 19073
I bought a pair of NOS Gieves & Hawkes boots from Ebay and upon arrival I noticed one of the hidden metal eyelets has come loose. Will this be easily repairable since they are hidden?



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