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Originally Posted by BootSpell View Post

It's all "crap".  I still vote for Lexol or Bick4 over wax.

Lexol and Bick 4 are conditioners not shining agents, which is what wax is.
post #14327 of 19040
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post


Lexol and Bick 4 are conditioners not shining agents, which is what wax is.

 

Very true. My comment was meant to state that I am not afraid that Lexol or Bick4 would ruin my shoes/boots.  My aesthetic leans towards the casual side so I don't strive for a shine on my footwear, but for a few pairs.  I use wax extremely rarely.  I do believe that shoes need to be conditioned (when needed).  Less is more.  But brush often and use trees.

post #14328 of 19040
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Originally Posted by mry8s View Post
 

This is actually a misnomer. Swirl marks are "swirly" looking because of the way a light source reflects off them. They are primarily a huge matrix of fine linear scratches in all directions and you will most certianly still see swirls even if you wax your car in one direction. If you're scratching the paint in circles, you're just going to scratch it in straight lines with this technique..

 

The real trick is to not scratch it with incorrect technique and materials. Number one error is using dirty cloths (or using only one and not properly cleaning it between bucket dips) to wash and dry the paint. 

 

As for how this applies to shoes, when you're bulling or mirror shining, you always want to be using clean materials. Keep your application and buffing pads or cloths freshly washed and have mutliples so if you drop one on the floor or carpet, you can set it aside. When you drop sticky, waxy rags on the ground, they will easily pick up small micro scale grit and you'll grind it right into your shoe when re-using it from the floor. Same with buffing cloths. When it doubt, use a fresh, clean one.

 

Now that you bring up car care, Rubik, I almost wonder how some of the techniques would carry over. Carnauba wax is used in both cases... if I had a pair of shoes that were candidates for a shine, I might consider cross-applying some car shining skills.

 

http://store.carcareonline.com/protectyourcarspaintfinish.aspx

 

I think we agree, it's just that the swirls allow you to see a reflection from every angle, where a straight line only makes it show from one angle. You're completely correct about clean products in either application, cars or shoes, though.

 

If you want to talk cars, set aside an hour and call the guy that runs that site to ask him what product he might recommend. He will find a way to work right-leaning politics, bird anatomy, and the miracle of the bumblebee into the conversation. It's quite entertaining if you budget the time appropriately, and he would make some of the shoe guys in this thread cry with shame the way he is committed to the cause.

post #14329 of 19040
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post


Lexol and Bick 4 are conditioners not shining agents, which is what wax is.

I don't know if you noticed  this, Pat, but when you let either Lexol or Bick4 dry properly on newly cleaned leather, then brush the surface nicely, they give this very interesting smooth surface that is mildly glowing. 

post #14330 of 19040
True, I just think it is the wax that is already on the shoe being brought back to a glow.
post #14331 of 19040
It's OK that I've been laughing as I've read all these recent comments, right?
post #14332 of 19040
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

True, I just think it is the wax that is already on the shoe being brought back to a glow.

Most often time, I strip off all the waxes (if you use Renomat the soapy fashion, it strips off everything), though, and it gave me that sort of effect. 

post #14333 of 19040
Hello, few days ago I show my pair of Double Monk with this condition after renomat-ing...

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Some told me is beyond repair but ultimately I know my shoes leather is ruins, but I did not just leave it to die and care for it... My end results.

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Thank you for all the help that I had received over here!
post #14334 of 19040
Great job Aerolord! icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
post #14335 of 19040

Wow! Like a new shoe! Great shine!

post #14336 of 19040
@Aerolord Well done sir icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
post #14337 of 19040

What about that shoe was "dead" or "ruined"?

 

Looked fine from the beginning. Looks like all you did was wax polish them to a high shine?

post #14338 of 19040
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Originally Posted by Shawl Lapel View Post

Great job Aerolord! icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
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Originally Posted by Trqmaster View Post
 

Wow! Like a new shoe! Great shine!

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Originally Posted by Cleav View Post

@Aerolord Well done sir icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

 

Thank you Shawl Lapel, Trqmaster and Cleav!

 

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Originally Posted by PCK1 View Post
 

What about that shoe was "dead" or "ruined"?

 

Looked fine from the beginning. Looks like all you did was wax polish them to a high shine?

 

Apparently I use Renomat too aggressively, because the shopkeeper told me for my shine, I would need to have to use a lot of Renomat... for you reference...

 

 

So pretty much I kept using Renomat and I realize the leather starts to peel and the bear part is very rough and raw. It was almost impossible to even shine that part, this is the fifth time I tried to shine this shoe, came out pretty good... but not with some blank patch on the side due to the "raw" and unable to polish the raw side.

 

But pretty happy with my current results!

post #14339 of 19040
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Originally Posted by Aerolord View Post
 

 

Thank you Shawl Lapel, Trqmaster and Cleav!

 

 

Apparently I use Renomat too aggressively, because the shopkeeper told me for my shine, I would need to have to use a lot of Renomat... for you reference...

 

 

So pretty much I kept using Renomat and I realize the leather starts to peel and the bear part is very rough and raw. It was almost impossible to even shine that part, this is the fifth time I tried to shine this shoe, came out pretty good... but not with some blank patch on the side due to the "raw" and unable to polish the raw side.

 

But pretty happy with my current results!

 

Then don't use renomat.

 

Follow this method:

 

Step 1 - Brush shoes

Step 2 - Sparingly apply wax polish in circular motions throughout shoe

Step 3 - Brush shoes

 

Guaranteed high shine and all of the care your shoes will ever require. 

post #14340 of 19040

@Aerolord Renomat doesn't peel leather, man! It's a stripper, and it strips the finish off of the leather, NOT stripping the leather itself. You don't get any products that strips the fibers or the grains or the surface of the leather off - that takes place with a knife. The leather feels raw because stripping takes away the coating, the finishes, the wax sealants, and thus, the original surface of the leather is revealed.

 

On a side note, this also shows that your shoes are made of good crust calf.

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