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post #13726 of 19059
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It's only expensive if you're poor.
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Having a bad day?

No need to engage in socio-economic bullying. Expense is relative, obviously.

It was said tongue-in-cheek...you know--jocularity, jocularity.
post #13727 of 19059
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Having a bad day?

No need to engage in socio-economic bullying. Expense is relative, obviously.

I was just joshin' ya, pal (I am poor too).
post #13728 of 19059
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Should I not be worried about the reviews on B Nelson's Yelp page? I have heard nothing but good things about them on here, but yikes.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/b-nelson-shoes-new-york

First, when you buy anything...cheap or expensive...you take responsibility for it. You'"own" it in every sense of the word. If you value your new shoes, you do your homework...and I don't mean listening to third parties here or on yelp. Most people can't muster much more than slightly agitated indifference--they treat their shoes like crap, take them in for repair expecting new shoes out of the transaction and the repair people to work magic, and are perplexed when it doesn't work out like that.

You need educate yourself..about a whole lot of stuff--like how a shoe is made, what to expect, and what works and doesn't work...no one can do it for you. And just as importantly who is going to meet your expectations.

The grapevine mostly produces bad whines (sic), and very little concrete information.

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post #13729 of 19059
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Originally Posted by DWFII View Post



It was said tongue-in-cheek...you know--jocularity, jocularity.

 

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I was just joshin' ya, pal (I am poor too).

Now I feel like a dick. I was pretty shocked that an established SF member would be such a jerk. All sarcasm is lost on forums (and me, apparently). Sorry about that!

post #13730 of 19059
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First, when you buy anything...cheap or expensive...you take responsibility for it. You've, in effect, adopted your new shoes. If you value them, you do your homework...and I don't mean listening to third parties here or on yelp. Most people treat their stuff like crap, take in for repair expecting new shoes out of the transaction and the repair people to work magic and are perplexed when it doesn't work out like that.

You need educate yourself..about a whole lot of stuff--like how a shoe is made, what to expect, and what works and doesn't work...no one can do it for you. The grapevine mostly produces bad whines (sic), and very little concrete information.

Thanks! I figured as much. While my guess is that they might be lacking a tiny bit in the CS department, I think based on the fact that SFers (who actually know what they are talking about) find their work exceptional, while some random Yelpers don't, answers my question.

post #13731 of 19059
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Thanks! I figured as much. While my guess is that they might be lacking a tiny bit in the CS department, I think based on the fact that SFers (who actually know what they are talking about) find their work exceptional, while some random Yelpers don't, answers my question.

Well, WADR, I wouldn't count on it. Have you ever heard of Groupthink? I'm not saying good or bad about any particular outfit...just that, again, it is unwise to accept the common doxology. And the more common it is, the more suspect.
post #13732 of 19059
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Well, WADR, I wouldn't count on it. Have you ever heard of Groupthink? I'm not saying good or bad about any particular outfit...just that, again, it is unwise to accept the common doxology. And the more common it is, the more suspect.

You are making the task of finding a cobbler to add metal tips to my shoes nearly impossible lol. My indecisiveness combined with your skepticism is a lethal combination.

post #13733 of 19059
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Now I feel like a dick. I was pretty shocked that an established SF member would be such a jerk. All sarcasm is lost on forums (and me, apparently). Sorry about that!

No, no, no, don't get me wrong, I am a jerk.
post #13734 of 19059
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

No, no, no, don't get me wrong, I am a jerk.

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And I'm a rough, old, squinty-eyed cob and a certified asshole...

You have to feel sorry for these guys--they just don't know what they're getting into.

"I've told these kids a hundred times 'don't take the lakes for granted,'
They go from calm to a 100 knots so fast they seem enchanted...'
post #13735 of 19059
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You are making the task of finding a cobbler to add metal tips to my shoes nearly impossible lol. My indecisiveness combined with your skepticism is a lethal combination.
If you want the metal taps to be flush, I'm not sure if you have any other options in the city.
post #13736 of 19059
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If you want the metal taps to be flush, I'm not sure if you have any other options in the city.

Okay, good to know. I think Leather Spa does French Metal Tips, whatever those are.

post #13737 of 19059

Excuse me. Is a storm welt a variant of a Goodyear welt, or something quite different? Yours, as ever, Munky.

post #13738 of 19059
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Excuse me. Is a storm welt a variant of a Goodyear welt, or something quite different? Yours, as ever, Munky.

Could be..."stormwelt" describes a shape. "Goodyear" describes a process.

Stormwelt could be either HW or GY.

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Edited by DWFII - 2/24/15 at 12:25pm
post #13739 of 19059
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

It has to do with the solvents in the polish. My complaint for some time about Saphir wax is there's too much turp in it. Whenever I would buy a new tin of the stuff I would leave the lid off for a week or so to dry it up. Makes mirror shining easier.

I don't like the idea of lighting wax on fire. All you're doing is causing the solvents to burn. Wax that gets too hot can break down and not work as intended. Glen has a tutorial on how to melt it properly and such on his old leather shoe blog.

I am having great luck with a dried out and cracked jar of Allen Edmonds Carnauba wax in neutral.  Shines very nicely.  Had this for 10 years probably.  I might be half way through.

post #13740 of 19059
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Originally Posted by Munky View Post
 

Excuse me. Is a storm welt a variant of a Goodyear welt, or something quite different? Yours, as ever, Munky.

Storm welt is what you see on most boots (the rugged ones) where the welt is 2 piece (or split).  I borrowed a pic I found on this thread. this is a 360* storm welt. Your dress shoes which are GY welted don't have this.

 

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