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post #13231 of 19067
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Originally Posted by DWFII View Post


Seriously, if inserts work for you and you aren't discommoded in some way or the other, and aren't worried about whether you are altering the fit of your shoes...and possibly the health of your feet...then count your blessings. You have a solution, many other people don't. Except MTO or bespoke.
 

You make me smile, sometimes, DW!  This is a real Catch 22 and you know it!  :crackup: 


Edited by Munky - 1/21/15 at 2:27am
post #13232 of 19067

I don't think that's a Catch 22 - it's just a simple explanation that shoes either fit or they don't.  And to a great or lesser degree, most ready made shoes don't.  How badly is our own choice, and how bad we can tolerate is up to us.

 

I think as a master of his craft, DW's default position is that there is only perfect and imperfect.  Somehow, I like the idea that someone who might make me bespoke shoes, feels that way: all or nothing.

 

But until a DW or someone like him is able to make me bespoke shoes to an uncompromising standard of fit, I think actually using pads or inserts or whatever, might be quite a sensible approach: ideally, you find RTW shoes that fit well.  But if you don't ever, or just ended up with some that over time you decide could be better, then I think there is something to be said for making at least a partial correction to the fit with inserts.  Yes, a heel pad will change the heel to ball length, but that might be what you need.  In this case, learning a little about the structure and mechanics and proportions of a good shoe from the DWs of this world, might be useful in deciding which way to go, and evaluating its outcome.

post #13233 of 19067
It's not so black and white or all or nothing.

There are a lot of variations to shoe fit including time of the day, salt intake, blood circulation, thickness of socks, etc.

For these exact same reasons 3D scanning and printing are not needed to create perfectly fitted shoes.

And I always find it fascinating that people buying country boots the same size as their dress shoes as evident in G&G and EG threads. Either they wear thick country socks with their dress shoes or they wear thin dress socks with country boots. Neither is logical. Both moronic.
post #13234 of 19067
I don't think it's black and white or all or nothing or perfect vs. imperfect...if it were, fitting up a customer would be a walk in the park.

Fit is complex. Fit is the whole crux of making shoes or boots. It is a lifetime study. Fit is the secret, the juju, the benison.

Making shoes is mostly muscle memory.
post #13235 of 19067
I'm thinking of changing the color of a pair of black dub-monks I bought on impulse a while back. The problem is that they are, well, black. I can't seem to get them to work with my current wardrobe and therefore thinking of the possibility of changing to a different color.

Is it at all possible to change from a solid black color to let's say dark brown or burgundy? Or should I just dismiss the idea as it is? Would renomat strip enough of the color?

Thanks.
post #13236 of 19067
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Originally Posted by Munky View Post

You make me smile, sometimes, DW!  This is a real Catch 22 and you know it!  crackup%5B1%5D.gif 

Well, it always helps when you have a problem to inform yourself about it as much as possible. If you knew something about your feet...such as heel to ball measurement and what a shoe that was built for your feet felt like, you would have an advantage.

The simple answer (and admittedly simple minded to one degree or another, as well) is that when you go to buy a pair of shoes take an insert with you and buy the shoes accordingly.

I don't know how thick the inserts you're using are or what they are made of, but a 3mm (1/8"?) neoprene insole has to add approx. a half size to the heel to ball measurement. So, theoretically, you should be buying shoes a half size longer than your real size if you intend to put an insert in them.

But that begs the question, doesn't it...what is your real size?
post #13237 of 19067
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Originally Posted by Bureaucrat View Post

I'm thinking of changing the color of a pair of black dub-monks I bought on impulse a while back. The problem is that they are, well, black. I can't seem to get them to work with my current wardrobe and therefore thinking of the possibility of changing to a different color.

Is it at all possible to change from a solid black color to let's say dark brown or burgundy? Or should I just dismiss the idea as it is? Would renomat strip enough of the color?

Thanks.

Not likely...not well...not easily...and in most cases, not satisfactorily.
post #13238 of 19067
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Originally Posted by DWFII View Post

Not likely...not well...not easily...and in most cases, not satisfactorily.
My hunch was correct then. Just have to try to get some use of them. Cheers! smile.gif
post #13239 of 19067
To me California is like the corrected grain leather of states.
post #13240 of 19067

Oh poor Pat... Have you forgot the heaven of genuine high end stuffs in San Fran? And the trunk show from the big guys in the summer?

 

Don't worry! I won't get the same symptoms. I only go there for the weather and scenery. However, you'll see me stick out like sore thumb.

post #13241 of 19067
Trunk show from the big guys? What does that mean?
post #13242 of 19067

And quite frankly, you got point. People down there were much overwhelmed by the flashy names and ended up buying brands more than products. By the amount of money spending on a Gucci or Prada, I'll save up for bespoke, which worth a whole heck lot more.

post #13243 of 19067
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Trunk show from the big guys? What does that mean?

You got Cleverley, Foster and Sons, and much more from England. They have trunk shows in San Fran, and to Beverley Hills as well, which is just North East where I'm moving to.

post #13244 of 19067
They do in New York City too.
post #13245 of 19067

Yup...

 

But somehow relying too much on trunk shows doesn't really give me a good feel.

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