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@DWFII Lacquering... Why have we not thought of that?

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+1. @traverscao, I agree this sounds crazy, yet I'm oddly fascinated. I would love to see a "Travers method" post, complete with pics a la one of Hanger Project's guides. It seems like you are doing a zillion more steps than I am, and quite honestly I have no idea what benefit you are getting from most of them. Whenever you get around to shoe maintenance this week, I'd love to see step-by-step pics and descriptions of your process if you have time.

Thanks for the kind words, Fred. 

 

Unfortunately, it isn't likely until next winter that I will come up with another cleaning session. This summer will be damn busy because I am moving, so you guys will have to miss the summer care.

 

I don't have a blog, so, if I was to ever do these things, it'll be a Style Forum thread.

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Unfortunately, it isn't likely until next winter that I will come up with another cleaning session. This summer will be damn busy because I am moving, so you guys will have to miss the summer care.
You do shoe maintenance twice a year? I usually do a half dozen pairs a week, plus whatever my wife throws on the pile, usually on Sundays while we watch whatever brain rot is on HBO or Showtime.
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You do shoe maintenance twice a year? I usually do a half dozen pairs a week, plus whatever my wife throws on the pile, usually on Sundays while we watch whatever brain rot is on HBO or Showtime.

My mother wears rugged boots only LOL!!!!

 

I used to do maintenance in a stricter, once a week for all of it, however, too much maintenance would be counter productive and screw the shoes up faster rather than lengthening their lifespan. 

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My mother wears rugged boots only LOL!!!!

I used to do maintenance in a stricter, once a week for all of it, however, too much maintenance would be counter productive and screw the shoes up faster rather than lengthening their lifespan. 

Your mother???

I honestly don't do a lot. Condition when needed (Renovateur or GK), Saphir cream polish when/where needed, then Saphir wax or GK high shine on the toe and heel counter. Brush before putting on and after taking off, use shoe trees/bags when storing, that's pretty much it. Suede I clean with the little eraser thingy and a suede brush, spray with Nano Protector once or twice a year, and once a year before fall clean with Omni'Nettoyant.
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too much maintenance would be counter productive and screw the shoes up faster rather than lengthening their lifespan. 

You mention "too much maintenance" yet you are doing a zillion different things to your shoes, most of which I don't know of anyone else doing. I'm not really following you here ...
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You mention "too much maintenance" yet you are doing a zillion different things to your shoes, most of which I don't know of anyone else doing. I'm not really following you here ...

It looks like a zillion things, but different products in small amounts, not dumping or smothering the shoes with products. After that, maintenance reduces to daily brushing. 

 

Seriously, it looks like too much work, but in fact it isn't.

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Regarding the Church's book leather, how did you do that?
I think the reason why some coated leather could absorb, even with the top coat, is because some how that top coat is porous enough for the act of air circulation to draw the grease deep within. I find AE's coating too sticky and the color runs everywhere, which was why I removed them. I didn't like them anyway - they may contribute greatly to wax finish cracking and conditioner's failure to absorb. 

Yes, the fine line. I have to take many measures to find that fine line. However, all was worth the work. 
Expanding the footwear collection is a thing I am aiming towards. Still, I may leave some to my heir(s), who knows, or maybe selling them. For that reason, they have to be well maintained.
If greasing didn't stop your shoes from dying, I wonder if I have to see the shoes on site, and probably make a long term observation on how they age, what kind of leather ... etc

I don't think greasing my shoes didn't stop them from drying. I think greasing them could have directly caused the leather to tear. I've said this numerous times, however you seem to ignore it. Wetting the fiber mat with oils and greases can make it softer, and come apart easier, especially on leathers not meant for greasing and oiling.

Also no matter how much you oil and grease your leather the fibers can only withstand so many flexes and will break regardless of lubrication. I think you're fighting to achieve something that is either not obtainable, which is ever lasting shoes, or fighting for an insignificant amount of wears past a shoe's prime. I think cracking leather for a large part boils down to "shit happens". Many people with shoes that have lasted a long time are people who don't wear them like you and I do and/or people with 100 pairs of shoes to rotate through.
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I don't mirror my shoes much often. If require, yes, I can even mirror up to the whole shoe upper. However, after that, I brush much more often.

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I don't think greasing my shoes didn't stop them from drying. I think greasing them could have directly caused the leather to tear. I've said this numerous times, however you seem to ignore it. Wetting the fiber mat with oils and greases can make it softer, and come apart easier, especially on leathers not meant for greasing and oiling.

Also no matter how much you oil and grease your leather the fibers can only withstand so many flexes and will break regardless of lubrication. I think you're fighting to achieve something that is either not obtainable, which is ever lasting shoes. I think cracking leather for a large part boils down to "shit happens".

Oh well, Pat, shit happens.

 

Again, it is definitely crazy to wet leather with oils. Fat on lean theory applies here - thin coats, not thick coats, and use them via brushing and wearing.

 

Not oiling (or greasing) will make the leather brittle, and oil them too much acts counter productively. However, the fine line is right there - light coats, of quality ingredients, high absorption, grease. Fingertips, swiping over the grease, not scooping a chunk out and then wait till eternity for them to dry.

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I've been there with light coats and all. Didn't have success, but then again that round of shoes lasted 5 years. Not too shabby given their wear.
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I've been there with light coats and all. Didn't have success, but then again that round of shoes lasted 5 years. Not too shabby given their wear.

5 years isn't bad. Daily rotation between pairs?

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Oh well, Pat, shit happens.

Again, it is definitely crazy to wet leather with oils. Fat on lean theory applies here - thin coats, not thick coats, and use them via brushing and wearing.

Not oiling (or greasing) will make the leather brittle, and oil them too much acts counter productively. However, the fine line is right there - light coats, of quality ingredients, high absorption, grease. Fingertips, swiping over the grease, not scooping a chunk out and then wait till eternity for them to dry.

This is even worse than vender spam.

You have transcended David Copeland.

Please don't grease leathers.

Buy more shoes if you don't want them to crack
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I don't mirror my shoes much often. If require, yes, I can even mirror up to the whole shoe upper. However, after that, I brush much more often.

Why would you mirror shine the whole upper? It will crack and look crappy as soon as you walk in them.
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Originally Posted by traverscao View Post

Not oiling (or greasing) will make the leather brittle, and oil them too much acts counter productively. However, the fine line is right there - light coats, of quality ingredients, high absorption, grease. Fingertips, swiping over the grease, not scooping a chunk out and then wait till eternity for them to dry.

This is why I was asking if you had pics of the "Travers method." I think you are doing way too much to your shoes, including things that I have a difficult time believing are beneficial. How many pairs of shoes do you have in your rotation? How do you deal with scuffs and wear if you are only doing this a couple of times a year as you stated here? If you are honestly walking 20 or 30 miles a day, then that's an unbelievable amount of wear on your dress shoes. Something doesn't add up here.
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This is even worse than vender spam.

You have transcended David Copeland.

Please don't grease leathers.

Buy more shoes if you don't want them to crack

What's your problem? Why do you people have to call me copeland for?

 

I did what I did for a reason, and I managed it very well, and if you cannot respect that like many others, walk away. Don't start. Don't make me feel sick of it.

 

It's not like I have none but one single pair of shoes. I have 4 pairs. And I still grease them because I find the effectiveness in doing so, and as Pat mentioned, I was able to find the fine line of it.

 

Again, just because I did something you cannot do, don't turn me into copeland just to sit on your sorry asses to laugh on. It is getting seriously worse.

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