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What are you talking about?

I thought the vamp was smooth, like a plain toe blucher sort. Was it, or was it with a toe cap?

post #13007 of 19047
I'm talking about the toe puff. It is stiff in any shoe, it doesn't bend.
post #13008 of 19047
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I'm talking about the toe puff. It is stiff in any shoe, it doesn't bend.

I saw some Wolverine 100 miles with heavily distorted toe area, so I was surprised.

post #13009 of 19047
Has nothing to do with polishing the toe.
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Pat, how did you polished that pair of CXL footwear? Can you recall the detail and talk about it? 

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Reno then wax polish
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I had too much thought about it, then...

 

Still, I'd say that was much a job well done.

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@DWFII, I was just sitting here thinking non-sense, when I actually had a question burst into my mind - what kind of leather Corcoran Paratrooper Boots used? And what finished was applied to the surface? It was amazing how many of them seen WWII battlefield and survived and continue to be worn, and then again were legendary boots that takes a shine like none could.

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@DWFII
, I was just sitting here thinking non-sense, when I actually had a question burst into my mind - what kind of leather Corcoran Paratrooper Boots used? And what finished was applied to the surface? It was amazing how many of them seen WWII battlefield and survived and continue to be worn, and then again were legendary boots that takes a shine like none could.

I don't know. The originals were brown and I suspect just a nice full grain cow. I'd love to have a decent pair of those even if they were repros (as well as an M2 carbine nod[1].gif) but they're all poron insoles now and crap, really.

By the time I was wearing them, they were black (might have been crap by then, as well--I didn't know any better), and IIRC the leather had a heavily finish. I don't believe they were shell although I was told some of the Marine Corp low quarters were shell. At the time I didn't know what shell was.

That said both the brown and the black were double soled (forepart only), spring heeled and made on the Munson last which is wide, bump toed and orthopedically correct. It was very comfortable and as I recall perfect for either standing landings or the roll (aka PLF). Why the Munson was so good, I don't know but I know I wouldn't want to hit the DZ in my chelseas.

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post #13015 of 19047
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I don't know. The originals were brown and I suspect just a nice full grain cow. I'd love to have a decent pair of those even if they were repros (as well as an M2 carbine) but they're all poron insoles and crap really.

By the time I was wearing them, they were black (might have been crap by then, as well--I didn't know any better). I don't believe either of them were shell although I was told some of the Marine Corp low quarters were shell. At the time I didn't know what shell was.

That said both the brown and the black were made on the Munson last which is wide, bump toed and orthopedically correct. It was very comfortable and as I recall perfect for either standing landings or the roll (aka PLF). Why the Munson was so good, I don't know but I know I wouldn't want to hit the DZ in my chelseas.

The Marine Corps Dress and Service shoes were rumored to be made of Shell Cordovan when the budget was awesome. Pics below:

 

Looks to me not so many shell cordovan sample was seen (perhaps they were kept as heirloom and never sold), yet so many of those emerged looking more like calfskin. 

 

The black repro Corcoran looks like drum dyed chrome leather. The Vietnam era samples looks more like chrome - veg retanned to me (the tan color rough side if one looks inside). I suspect the quality decreased no thanks to McNamara being the secretary. 

 

Corcoran is still producing these boots, but, as you put it, the insoles are crappy, those the new insoles received quite a bit of compliments (probably because people hadn't experienced the originals like you did).

 

Talking about the leather of Corcoran, it's really something I have yet to find out about. It is absolutely amazing. I don't own any, because I know repros' quality isn't any good, but judging by the way how they were extensively used through the battlefield with just wax polish as primary care and would still remain serviceable through all that year tells me the leather must have been a secret brew of the trade.

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Pat, in your opinion, which one - boots and shoes - should receive more care? 

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The Marine Corps Dress and Service shoes were rumored to be made of Shell Cordovan when the budget was awesome. Pics below:



Looks to me not so many shell cordovan sample was seen (perhaps they were kept as heirloom and never sold), yet so many of those emerged looking more like calfskin. 

The black repro Corcoran looks like drum dyed chrome leather. The Vietnam era samples looks more like chrome - veg retanned to me (the tan color rough side if one looks inside). I suspect the quality decreased no thanks to McNamara being the secretary. 

Corcoran is still producing these boots, but, as you put it, the insoles are crappy, those the new insoles received quite a bit of compliments (probably because people hadn't experienced the originals like you did).

Talking about the leather of Corcoran, it's really something I have yet to find out about. It is absolutely amazing. I don't own any, because I know repros' quality isn't any good, but judging by the way how they were extensively used through the battlefield with just wax polish as primary care and would still remain serviceable through all that year tells me the leather must have been a secret brew of the trade.

I just read somewhere that the originals were side leather chrome retanned.

Your question prompted me to look on the net and I found a pair that seem to be pretty close, from At The Front. Also jonesing for the M37 wool shirt. I have an Ike jacket that is a repro but almost indistinguishable from the original and a vintage British Battle Blouse--both of which I really like. But I wear the Ike more than the Battle Blouse which is just a tad too small. I'd really like to have an original Officer's Ike--it was dark brown.
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I just read somewhere that the originals were side leather chrome retanned.

Your question prompted me to look on the net and I found a pair that seem to be pretty close, from At The Front. Also jonesing for the M37 wool shirt. I have an Ike jacket that is a repro but almost indistinguishable from the original and a vintage British Battle Blouse--both of which I really like. But I wear the Ike more than the Battle Blouse which is just a tad too small. I'd really like to have an original Officer's Ike--it was dark brown.

LOL!!!! Sir, you may have to try the 'Bay for original stuffs. FWIW, with luck, one can find brand (or warehouse) new items on the bay. I scored one of those rough out M1951 boots from a Marine Corps vet that I am planning to turn into waxed calf boots.

 

With luck, and with time, you may be able to find very cool brand new condition vintage items on the 'Bay.

post #13019 of 19047
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Originally Posted by DWFII View Post

By the time I was wearing them, they were black (might have been crap by then, as well--I didn't know any better), and IIRC the leather had a heavily finish. I don't believe they were shell although I was told some of the Marine Corp low quarters were shell. At the time I didn't know what shell was.

These don't seem like military-issued shoes because of the absence of a contract number, but I was very surprised and this may be the first and last time to find military-style shoes made of shell. Does anyone know whether these are USMC-style civilian goods?
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Originally Posted by traverscao View Post

Pat, in your opinion, which one - boots and shoes - should receive more care? 

Depends on what you're doing in each I suppose.
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