Styleforum › Forums › Men's Style › Men's Clothing › **The Official Shoe Care Thread: Tutorials, Photos, etc.**
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

**The Official Shoe Care Thread: Tutorials, Photos, etc.** - Page 86

post #1276 of 2184
2/2/12 at 10:01am
I have toe caps on shoes that have 10 layers of Saphir neutral on them - they look stunning. Deep, rich, clear, finish no hint of gray or dulling.

The reason it is not clear in the tin probably has more to do with the fact that it is 'fluffed' up with solvents and air. When applied to the shoe in a thin layer the airspace is removed and the solvents evaporate.
Reply
Reply
post #1277 of 2184
2/2/12 at 5:02pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gdot View Post

I have toe caps on shoes that have 10 layers of Saphir neutral on them - they look stunning. Deep, rich, clear, finish no hint of gray or dulling.
The reason it is not clear in the tin probably has more to do with the fact that it is 'fluffed' up with solvents and air. When applied to the shoe in a thin layer the airspace is removed and the solvents evaporate.

I have no doubt that your shoes look stunning Gdot. You should post a photo. My point was that if all you used was neutral polish, and never pigmented polish, after awhile you would loose your deep, rich, clear, finish, and that neutral should be used for final coats, not as an entire solution. And, I suspect that there may be some differences between the brands of polish, and therefore the results.

As to the clarity of the polish in the tin, it is probably due to a number of factors, but I believe that oils are the main contributing factor. Probably no way to know for sure.

Since I am an advocate of less is more when it comes to shoe polish, I personally would not have put 10 layers of neutral polish (or 10 layers of any polish for that matter) on a shoe. But whatever works for you is fine.

This shoe (which I recently posted in the 'WAYWRN: Shoe & Boot Edition') has two coats of colored cream, one coat colored paste (two on the toe cap), and two coats of neutral (only on the toe cap). The photo is without a flash, but there is a southern facing window with a blind that is still letting in a lot of light and reflecting off the shoe. Other than the glare, you can see faint outlines of the room reflecting in the toe cap. That is about all the shine I need.

498
Reply
Reply
post #1278 of 2184
2/2/12 at 5:05pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by glenjay View Post

I have no doubt that your shoes look stunning Gdot. You should post a photo. My point was that if all you used was neutral polish, and never pigmented polish, after awhile you would loose your deep, rich, clear, finish, and that neutral should be used for final coats, not as an entire solution. And, I suspect that there may be some differences between the brands of polish, and therefore the results.
As to the clarity of the polish in the tin, it is probably due to a number of factors, but I believe that oils are the main contributing factor. Probably no way to know for sure.
Since I am an advocate of less is more when it comes to shoe polish, I personally would not have put 10 layers of neutral polish (or 10 layers of any polish for that matter) on a shoe. But whatever works for you is fine.
This shoe (which I recently posted in the 'WAYWRN: Shoe & Boot Edition') has two coats of colored cream, one coat colored paste (two on the toe cap), and two coats of neutral (only on the toe cap). The photo is without a flash, but there is a southern facing window with a blind that is still letting in a lot of light and reflecting off the shoe. Other than the glare, you can see faint outlines of the room reflecting in the toe cap. That is about all the shine I need.
498

Thank you for clarifying. I completely agree with your statements above.

I use cream polish under neutral wax.

Your shoes look beautiful!
Reply
Reply
post #1279 of 2184
2/2/12 at 8:45pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by glenjay View Post

I have no doubt that your shoes look stunning Gdot. You should post a photo. My point was that if all you used was neutral polish, and never pigmented polish, after awhile you would loose your deep, rich, clear, finish, and that neutral should be used for final coats, not as an entire solution. And, I suspect that there may be some differences between the brands of polish, and therefore the results.
As to the clarity of the polish in the tin, it is probably due to a number of factors, but I believe that oils are the main contributing factor. Probably no way to know for sure.
Since I am an advocate of less is more when it comes to shoe polish, I personally would not have put 10 layers of neutral polish (or 10 layers of any polish for that matter) on a shoe. But whatever works for you is fine.
This shoe (which I recently posted in the 'WAYWRN: Shoe & Boot Edition') has two coats of colored cream, one coat colored paste (two on the toe cap), and two coats of neutral (only on the toe cap). The photo is without a flash, but there is a southern facing window with a blind that is still letting in a lot of light and reflecting off the shoe. Other than the glare, you can see faint outlines of the room reflecting in the toe cap. That is about all the shine I need.
498

Nice looking shoes! fit also looks perfect (who makes them?) Enjoy!
Reply
Reply
post #1280 of 2184
2/2/12 at 10:38pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by goodlensboy View Post

Nice looking shoes! fit also looks perfect (who makes them?) Enjoy!
Shoe Image (Click to show)
498

Thank you. They are made by Martegani, and they fit very well.
Reply
Reply
post #1281 of 2184
2/3/12 at 5:12am
Great, looks very similar to City II (in 8000!)
Quote:
Originally Posted by glenjay View Post

Shoe Image (Click to show)
498
Thank you. They are made by Martegani, and they fit very well.
Reply
Reply
post #1282 of 2184
2/3/12 at 5:28am
How you guys use your polishing clothes or shining gloves...

I use Sylvet PR - Back side for removing excess, then front, with little moisture, then dry - with excellent results

263


Though so far not quite impressed by Valmour Shining Glove:

236

263

Per valmour: "Shining glove for caring for shoe leather, leather goods and clothes, leather furniture... Cut from Shabrack sheep skin, 100 % very thick real sheep wool, to obtain optimum shine by warming up the particles of animal (bee) or vegetal (carnauba) wax " ... perhpas I don't know how to use it, any experiences shared welcome
Reply
Reply
post #1283 of 2184
2/3/12 at 5:44am
Quote:
Originally Posted by goodlensboy View Post

How you guys use your polishing clothes or shining gloves...

i don't use polishing clothes. i almost never shine them, i prefer matte.
Reply
Reply
post #1284 of 2184
2/3/12 at 2:10pm
I opened a door into my Chestnut Belgraves today baldy[1].gif and got a small scuff on the point of the toe cap. What color cream should I use to fix it? All I have right now is Saphir Burgundy. Will that work or should I buy a different color?
Reply
Reply
post #1285 of 2184
2/3/12 at 2:13pm
i would go with light brown #3.
Reply
Reply
post #1286 of 2184
2/4/12 at 4:48am

I'm sorry to ask a probably repeated question, but I'm curious as to the difference, if any between Saphir renovateur and the Medaille D'Or renovating cream polish? I'm having trouble sourcing the renovateur in Australia without buying in bulk, but this listing has a neutral cream listed as an option. I've done a fair bit of reading in this thread, and there have been many comments which give similar properties to these creams as the renovateur. 

 

If noone has any idea I'll just take a leap and order some, I suppose if it's nothing like it I can always gift it to a less knowledged family member, or something. 

 

Other question is regarding the two lines of creams Saphir produce. Anyone found any notable difference that justifies the price? 

 

Yes, I've been bitten by the shoe bug, you bastards :P

Reply
Reply
post #1287 of 2184
2/4/12 at 6:46am
Quote:
Originally Posted by joiji View Post

I'm sorry to ask a probably repeated question, but I'm curious as to the difference, if any between Saphir renovateur and the Medaille D'Or renovating cream polish? I'm having trouble sourcing the renovateur in Australia without buying in bulk, but this listing has a neutral cream listed as an option. I've done a fair bit of reading in this thread, and there have been many comments which give similar properties to these creams as the renovateur. 

If noone has any idea I'll just take a leap and order some, I suppose if it's nothing like it I can always gift it to a less knowledged family member, or something. 

Other question is regarding the two lines of creams Saphir produce. Anyone found any notable difference that justifies the price? 

Yes, I've been bitten by the shoe bug, you bastards :P


The Pommadier cream is a great product, the 'renovating' in title however appears to have been added by the ebay seller, almost probably because he doesn't sell the actual Renovateur.

The two products are completely different - The Pommadier coloured creams have a high pigment content together with useful oils, waxes etc to keep the leather in great shape. The Renovateur is a mild cleaner and very useful conditioner. Most people use the Renovateur and Pommadier in conjunction.

Finally the price difference between the standard Saphir range and the Medaille D'or is justifiable IMHO, but for some products only.
Reply
Reply
post #1288 of 2184
2/4/12 at 7:04am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Northampton Novice View Post


The Pommadier cream is a great product, the 'renovating' in title however appears to have been added by the ebay seller, almost probably because he doesn't sell the actual Renovateur.
The two products are completely different - The Pommadier coloured creams have a high pigment content together with useful oils, waxes etc to keep the leather in great shape. The Renovateur is a mild cleaner and very useful conditioner. Most people use the Renovateur and Pommadier in conjunction.
Finally the price difference between the standard Saphir range and the Medaille D'or is justifiable IMHO, but for some products only.


Sigh. Seem's I'll have to find a good source of renovateur, I've got my local cobbler searching into Warpoo, who, I heard somewhere are the Australian distributer for Saphir products, I'm sure the price will be through the roof though.

Thanks for clearing that up, by the way. So you feel the difference between the Pomadier creams and the basic creams is significant? I'd have to order a set of each to compare them myself, and I'd rather not do that, so the internet and it's experience will have to suffice. From what I gather, most shoe maintenance uses a wax, rather than these creams, renovateur not withstanding, so with how little you use, I suppose it's worth paying the premium.

 

Thanks for the reply Northhampton, much appreciated.

Reply
Reply
post #1289 of 2184
2/6/12 at 1:06am
kirbya, will you be publishing your announced tutorial anytime soon?
Reply
Reply
post #1290 of 2184
2/6/12 at 7:42am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Liquidus View Post

I opened a door into my Chestnut Belgraves today baldy[1].gif and got a small scuff on the point of the toe cap. What color cream should I use to fix it? All I have right now is Saphir Burgundy. Will that work or should I buy a different color?

Try the Pate de Luxe polish in "acajou" (mahogany).
Reply
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Men's Clothing
Styleforum › Forums › Men's Style › Men's Clothing › **The Official Shoe Care Thread: Tutorials, Photos, etc.**