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post #11971 of 19069

Seal.  That must be waterproof.

post #11972 of 19069
Elephant is tough but it may be one of the least water resistant simply because elephants ahave large diameter hairs that penetrate the grain. By the time elephant is split to an appropriate thickness for shoes or boots, you have myriad holes--the follicles-- that go right through through the grain and corium.

No leather is water proof or even water resistant unless it has a plastic overlay on the grain or some other opaque finish. Or a wax coating or oil stuffing. All things being equal an unfinished crust calf will be no better or worse, generally speaking, than shell.

Seal is not waterproof...neither is perch leather.
post #11973 of 19069

so basically we should all just wear wellington boots and forgo dress shoes entirely...

post #11974 of 19069

Or just polish our shoes.  Wax is waterproof.

 

Alternatively, we might also recognise that getting wet isn't the end of the world.  Particularly when we might have thirty pairs of shoes in rotation, tree them religiously and clean and polish them rather more than they really need.  It rains.  They get a little wet.  Never mind. :)

post #11975 of 19069
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

I used to be all about shell, but fuck shell for realz.

 

How did the reckoning happen?

post #11976 of 19069

Why does everyone want waterproof shoes/boots? Properly tanned leather gets wet, and then dries when left unworn for a day or two (and returns to close to its original condition once you wipe off the muck/dirt immediately after taking them off).

I don't think any of us here are walking around in swamps or wading through knee deep water. At least not in dress shoes.

post #11977 of 19069
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I have no knowledge of elephant leather, but I wouldn't doubt it. I bet DW would say Kangaroo is the best.

Well treated kangaroo and waxed calf treated with heavy grease, I'd say.
post #11978 of 19069
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I used to be all about shell, but fuck shell for realz.

Is it the cosmetic defection that changed your mind? Or is it actually shell itself being too naked to deal with the weather?
post #11979 of 19069
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Originally Posted by sleepyinsanfran View Post
 

Why does everyone want waterproof shoes/boots? Properly tanned leather gets wet, and then dries when left unworn for a day or two (and returns to close to its original condition once you wipe off the muck/dirt immediately after taking them off).

I don't think any of us here are walking around in swamps or wading through knee deep water. At least not in dress shoes.

I walked in the snow with calfskin shoes this morning, and I can tell you, without GK polish on them, I would have had trench foot. I have some very sensitive feet that reacts violently to cold and cold wet (not my body though, still), and therefore, properly treated leather protect my feet better.

post #11980 of 19069
Travers, I think this is all in your head. Even if it isn't if your feet get a bit wet and you just venture inside, who really cares? It's not like you're a construction worker who has to be outside in the freezing cold for 12 hours.
post #11981 of 19069
will Meltonian condition AND shine? (can i skip the Lexol layer?)
post #11982 of 19069
It will shine, but not really condition. Where are you pulling this Meltonian from recently? I haven't heard that brand uttered in years.
post #11983 of 19069
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the only thing i really care about is weather-proofing and longevity. the perfect shine is not nearly as important.

If this is what you want, smother them in Obaneuf's LP or Montana Pitch blend.
post #11984 of 19069
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so basically we should all just wear wellington boots and forgo dress shoes entirely...

Nothing good ever comes without a price. That's one of the big misunderstandings...or refusal to understand...that we encounter here all the time.

If you don't feel compelled...don't recognize a need...to maintain your dress shoes--to put some effort into it not only in understanding what leather is all about but what you need to do to own a pair of leather shoes, then yes, corrected grain leathers, rubber soles and Crocs are probably your best bet.
post #11985 of 19069
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

Travers, I think this is all in your head. Even if it isn't if your feet get a bit wet and you just venture inside, who really cares? It's not like you're a construction worker who has to be outside in the freezing cold for 12 hours.

Pat, it's not in my head. I have very sensitive feet that reacts violently to cold, wet, and cold wet. I cannot wear cotton socks because they soak moisture and make horrible shits out of my feet. 

 

I used to hike a lot during high school, with many places wet and cold, and I came to appreciate the idea of well-protected foot and quality footwear. 

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