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post #11896 of 19079
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Originally Posted by traverscao View Post

Book binding leather, CG, and spatula on them (?)

BTW, DW, another question for waxed calf - can the burnishing process be done with a burnishing wax? Or must it be the wall paste you told me?

AFAIK, at least for the Traditional recipe, it requires the sizing.
post #11897 of 19079
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Originally Posted by DWFII View Post

AFAIK, at least for the Traditional recipe, it requires the sizing.

Sizing?
post #11898 of 19079

Can anyone comment on this phenomenon?

 

I was cleaning and conditioning two pairs of shell boots (AE Dalton and Alden Indy). I did the following:

 

1) Wipe with damp microfiber

2) Apply VSC or Lexol (more on this below)

3) Apply Lexol or VSC

4) Let air dry

 

In the case where I applied VSC first, let dry, then applied Lexol, the shell maintained a decent gloss and looked fantastic.

 

In the case where I applied Lexol first, then VSC, the shell remained dull. In this case, the shell was dull after the first Lexol coat, yet remained dull after VSC was applied.

 

Any idea what's going on? Should I just order a deer bone and rub that oil all over the dull pair?

 

Thanks in advance.

post #11899 of 19079
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Originally Posted by traverscao View Post

Sizing?

Wallpaper paste, wheat starch paste, something like that.
post #11900 of 19079
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Originally Posted by sacafotos View Post

Can anyone comment on this phenomenon?

I was cleaning and conditioning two pairs of shell boots (AE Dalton and Alden Indy). I did the following:

1) Wipe with damp microfiber
2) Apply VSC or Lexol (more on this below)
3) Apply Lexol or VSC
4) Let air dry

In the case where I applied VSC first, let dry, then applied Lexol, the shell maintained a decent gloss and looked fantastic.

In the case where I applied Lexol first, then VSC, the shell remained dull. In this case, the shell was dull after the first Lexol coat, yet remained dull after VSC was applied.

Any idea what's going on? Should I just order a deer bone and rub that oil all over the dull pair?

Thanks in advance.

Don't use VSC. Just replace that with any kind of polish be it Saphir, or Glenkaren or whatever.
post #11901 of 19079
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Originally Posted by ChrisRocknRoll View Post
 

I'm a newb, this is my second post, I'm reposting this here as there's a gread deal of knowledge here, initially posted this in the dedicated RW thread.

I Came across this site awhile back while researching on care techniques for leather and such. Great forum!

So, I purchased some 9011's on 3/2014. Nice boots, wear'em all day, every day! They started gettin funky on me though so I took'em in last week to ask the shop what they thought about the couple issues and they replaced'em for me! 

Here's some pictures of the two issues I ran into.

I had some separating going on around the sole area, this was my major concern as we're going into the winter months and I didn't want moisture to worsen it. I was told it was only cosmetic and not to be worried about it.

 

Second issue was this:

The nails were starting to protrude through. This is what was of most concern to the shop. 

 

So, now I've got a brand new, ready to break in, pair of beckmans. Super happy about that!

Now, since I'm starting from the beginning again, I've got some questions, as I've read a few weeks worth on this forum about the various care tecniques.

My first pair, I used kiwi natural on the welt area, thinking it would help with water proofing....now I'm wondering if that could have been the cause of the separating?

I'm also debating on Sno Sealing my boots this time around, but I was always under the impression that stuff seals out moisture, which means you can't reapply any kind of nutrients/moisturizers to the leather. I remember the days of baseball gloves cracking from this sort of treatment from drying out internally and not being able to get anything to penetrate through the sno seal.

 

After my first month of owning the first pair, I switched from kiwi to Saphir products, the Renovateur which is mink oil based, and a Medaille D'Or Creme. 

I just don't want any issues with this pair, like the last, if anything is preventable on my part!


These are a dress work boot, for me. I kick heavy boxes and totes around at work, am on my feet solid 8+ hrs a day doing a lot of walking and standing. I'm not a heavy guy 145lbs. 

 

Definitely have no complaints, these boots are beautiful and awesome customer service from both my local shop and Red Wing!

 

I'm kind of wanting to try my hand at bulling them if possible then letting them wear/patina naturally and just keep them with a brush shine.

 

So, just following up on this, I know a few had given me answers, now I'm looking for opinions. Red Wing sent me a new pair of boots, I was happy, took'em home and wore them inside around the house for about 4 hours and the thick leather insole started to flex upward into my foot, so...off they went and now I've got another new pair...I've got to say, Red Wing and my local store have been awesome about taking care of me, backing their product and customer support 100%. 

 

So I'm now on my third pair of boots in sixish months...but these ones have slight issues. I've worn them every day for the past week and a half. There's an issue with the welt area on the left boot, inside. It hasn't separated, though it looks it, in the pictures. It's like they put the sole on a router of sorts and give the final shape and this one got a little aggressive and gouged it a little bit.

Am I being too picky and worrisome? I don't want a pair of boots that isn't going to last, that's the reason I chose Red Wing, at $330 bucks I thought I was getting something that'd last me years and years. At this point, I almost feel I should've gone with my original, cheap boot and had two pair.

 

 

 

post #11902 of 19079
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Originally Posted by ChrisRocknRoll View Post

Am I being too picky and worrisome?

Yes.
post #11903 of 19079
I've got a shoe made of cxl, and applied a few thin coats of wax polish, only to realise that you shouldn't apply any wax-based polish to cxl.. Is it a huge/irreversible mistake? Anyone has suggestions on how to safely remove the coats of polish, condition the leather, and develop a nice patina over time?
post #11904 of 19079
A few thin coats of polish is not endangering the leather, and there is no point in trying to remove it, as it will slowly diminish over time. The leather can still be conditioned and will develope a nice patina as long as you don't soak the leather in oil.
post #11905 of 19079
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Originally Posted by ChrisRocknRoll View Post
 

 

 

So I'm now on my third pair of boots in sixish months...but these ones have slight issues. I've worn them every day for the past week and a half. 

This might be a source of your problems.

post #11906 of 19079
Why shouldn't you put wax on chromexcel?
post #11907 of 19079

If I was the store or Red Wing I'd blacklist you from ever doing business with them again.  Can't always put customers first.

post #11908 of 19079
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Originally Posted by Beach Bum View Post
 

If I was the store or Red Wing I'd blacklist you from ever doing business with them again.  Can't always put customers first.

lol Whoa!? For legit reasons? The first pair had the nails coming up through the foot bed and separating as well, second pair separated internally. I came in and asked, never demanded for anything and every time they said that's not okay, and sent off the boots.

 

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Originally Posted by MDeKelver View Post
 

This might be a source of your problems.

Every other pair of cheap shoes and boots I've ever owned in my 34 years of existence has always been worn every day. I don't think that should be any excuse. I'm on my feet all day, but not really working hard with my shoes/boots like kicking things around. I get a good year+ worth out of my old school vans and puma ligas. I thought I'd pay more and get something both dressy and durable, which hasn't been the case thus far. My shoes generally cost about 60ish bucks and I've owned Docs which cost about 80 bucks and both have been tougher than these boots, so I think I can have some disappointment in the quality, no?

post #11909 of 19079
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

Why shouldn't you put wax on chromexcel?

I suppose the oiling process done from Horween would make the leather looks god awful when being waxed with wax polish. I've seen awful ones, although good results have also been reported. However, their creasing nature would quickly diminish the shiny finish.

It's an oiled leather, after all, but unlike shell, it's oily to the touch, and the oiliness wouldn't go away.
post #11910 of 19079
Meh.
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