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post #11581 of 19213
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Originally Posted by PCK1 View Post
 

Half of this thread is questions by people who messed up their shoes trying to care for them and using all of these ridiculous products that don't do anything for your shoes...except for damage them.

 

Shoe care is very simple.

 

1. Always use shoe trees.

2. Have multiple pairs of shoes (and shoe trees for each pair) and rotate their wear.

3. Brush your shoes after every wear...and before if you are particularly anal.

4. On the rare occasion (and depending on how much use the shoe gets)...sparingly apply wax polish and buff to shine.

 

If you do this...your shoes will look great for a very long time...and more importantly...last a long time...

 

You do not need to use all of these crazy creams and moisturizers and waterproofers and god knows what else they are coming out with.

 

If you really feel the need to moisturize you can do this maybe once or twice a year...and very sparingly.

 

Wax polish will also over time affect the color of your shoes...but in a very positive way giving it a nice patina...and this is how a shoe develops character and becomes uniquely yours.

A slight contradiction in this statement, so, yes, you would actually agree that cream is eligible for use? Because, really, I didn't say using cream for everyday of the week would be healthy for cordovan.

post #11582 of 19213
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Originally Posted by traverscao View Post
 

A slight contradiction in this statement, so, yes, you would actually agree that cream is eligible for use? Because, really, I didn't say using cream for everyday of the week would be healthy for cordovan.

 

Creams are not moisturizers.

 

Lexol is a moisturizer.

post #11583 of 19213
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Originally Posted by Zapasman View Post
 

Thankyou PCK1, I started to use renovateur cream for my shells after using nothing ( I have different pair of shell shoes for at least 5 years). I m going to start using nothing again but my hand, brush and damp flannel.  But...do you take the time to brush them every day after wearing?.  That´s a hell of time.  Thanks for you inputs and pics.

 

Yes, I brush them after every single wear..then I place them in dustbags and bax in their shoe box.

 

I brush them as much as is needed until they are shining again. Cordovan requires more brushing than calf...but it is worth it.

post #11584 of 19213
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Originally Posted by PCK1 View Post
 

 

Creams are not moisturizers.

 

Lexol is a moisturizer.

Please, how do you explain most of the oil and grease or butter content in most shoe cream then? And are you going to call Glen a liar? I know his shoe cream contains sufficient amount of oils to wet the shoe if one does not use it correctly.

post #11585 of 19213

This thread needs more Dave Copelands.

post #11586 of 19213
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post
 

This thread needs more Dave Copelands.

Why? So that we can all be annoyed for pleasure?

post #11587 of 19213
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Originally Posted by traverscao View Post
 

Please, how do you explain most of the oil and grease or butter content in most shoe cream then? And are you going to call Glen a liar? I know his shoe cream contains sufficient amount of oils to wet the shoe if one does not use it correctly.

 

Please find me a single shoe care company that lists the percentage amount of each active ingredient in a cream....or one that even lists what the ingredients are to begin....

 

It doesn't exist...because it is BS.

 

Creams are not moisturizers. They are really only useful if you want to alter your shoes color.

 

Lexol is a pure moisturizer.

 

And...my comment about moisturizing was for those of you that freak out and think this stuff is necessary.

 

I have shoes that are a decade old and have never seen anything but wax polish and are still in amazing shape.

post #11588 of 19213
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Originally Posted by PCK1 View Post
 

 

Please find me a single shoe care company that lists the percentage amount of each active ingredient in a cream....or one that even lists what the ingredients are to begin....

 

It doesn't exist...because it is BS.

 

Creams are not moisturizers. They are really only useful if you want to alter your shoes color.

 

Lexol is a pure moisturizer.

 

And...my comment about moisturizing was for those of you that freak out and think this stuff is necessary.

 

I have shoes that are a decade old and have never seen anything but wax polish and are still in amazing shape.

http://glenkarencare.com/gkcp/ - May I introduce you to this guy who changed my shoe's life.

post #11589 of 19213
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Originally Posted by traverscao View Post
 

http://glenkarencare.com/gkcp/ - May I introduce you to this guy who changed my shoe's life.

 

I'm not an idiot. I know who he is and the products that he sells. I also know that he is a business person who wants to sell more products...and that most of his products are not necessary...and his blog posts are motivated by the desire to sell more products.

 

Shoe care has been the same for decades, centuries....Why all of a sudden do leather shoes need all of these things like creams and other crap?? Leather has not changed so much...crappy mass produced stuff aside...

 

So why do we need all of these new products....when we know from experience what has worked forever? Wax polish...tried and true. 

 

Many of my shoes are half your age...at least...and have never seen any cream...and certainly don't need it.

 

So please tell me with all of your couple of months of caring for shoes...how you are the foremost expert?

post #11590 of 19213
Also, you could just get Kiwi wax. It will work just fine. It seems to work for the best RTW and bespoke shoemakers.

The high price of shoe care products does not denote improved effectiveness. The point about shoecare being a business is an important one. Marketing is an important driver of their SG&A expenses. Spending hundreds of dollars, or pounds, or whatever currency you use, on fancy/expensive/exclusive care products will neither magically transform your shoes, nor necessarily protect them better than inexpensive products. The ingredients in shoe care products are cheap animal, plant, and chemical byproducts.

But go ahead mix Saphir, and unicorn tears, and champagne for your exclusive mirror shine. Some of us will be observing this ridiculous behavior from the peanut gallery. Cheers.
post #11591 of 19213
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Originally Posted by PCK1 View Post
 

 

I'm not an idiot. I know who he is and the products that he sells. I also know that he is a business person who wants to sell more products...and that most of his products are not necessary...and his blog posts are motivated by the desire to sell more products.

 

Shoe care has been the same for decades, centuries....Why all of a sudden do leather shoes need all of these things like creams and other crap?? Leather has not changed so much...crappy mass produced stuff aside...

 

So why do we need all of these new products....when we know from experience what has worked forever? Wax polish...tried and true. 

 

Many of my shoes are half your age...at least...and have never seen any cream...and certainly don't need it.

 

So please tell me with all of your couple of months of caring for shoes...how you are the foremost expert?

Let's clarify a few things here - I didn't claim myself an expert. Many of your shoes are half my age - oh gosh, do you even know how old am I? Have we met on the street(s)?

 

So, in your opinion, your say it's all marketing, but have you even had hands-on experience with Glen Karen's products?

 

Do you even know why wax polish was invented? Are you certain of its functions? Do you know of its history?

 

With this attitude, I expect no further conversations. I just got into the thing that I tried to avoid. I gotta be honest, reading all of that 770+ pages may have helped, but the consequence I saw today does somewhat hurt, because this is not what I expected. 

 

Thanks for the conversation. Happy being the sire. 

post #11592 of 19213
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Originally Posted by PCK1 View Post
 

 

I'm not an idiot. I know who he is and the products that he sells. I also know that he is a business person who wants to sell more products...and that most of his products are not necessary...and his blog posts are motivated by the desire to sell more products.

 

Shoe care has been the same for decades, centuries....Why all of a sudden do leather shoes need all of these things like creams and other crap?? Leather has not changed so much...crappy mass produced stuff aside...

 

So why do we need all of these new products....when we know from experience what has worked forever? Wax polish...tried and true. 

 

Many of my shoes are half your age...at least...and have never seen any cream...and certainly don't need it.

 

So please tell me with all of your couple of months of caring for shoes...how you are the foremost expert?

And may I further disappoint you before I leave - shoe creams, oils, and greases existed as long, or even longer, in the two latters' case, than wax polish. Live with that.

post #11593 of 19213
Man, he does sound like David.

PCK1 is right on money. Creams are not necessary unless you want to change the color of the shoe. I learned the hard way, I wish I did not buy so many creams. I said this before and I will say it again Saphir excellent products but Saphir marketing is even better than its products. All you need to know that Saphir has "an expiration date" on their products.

GlenKaren started its shoe care line because he disliked the smell of regular shoe care creams and waxes. I tried Glen products, I do not think they are better than Saphir or Kiwi but they smell nice.

With shoe care products you really need very little.
post #11594 of 19213
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Originally Posted by laufer View Post

PCK1 is right on money. Creams are not necessary unless you want to change the color of the shoe. I learned the hard way, I wish I did not buy so many creams. I said this before and I will say it again Saphir excellent products but Saphir marketing is even better than its products. All you need to know that Saphir has "an expiration date" on their products.
 

Do say more: what did your expired Saphir do to your shoes?

post #11595 of 19213

Wait, so now it's best not to use anything on our shoes?? God Dam#it.

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