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Originally Posted by lasa View Post

Hello!! I'm lasa and i'm from indonesia. So i really interested with leather shoes after i see a couple leather shoes from shop in instagram. I have read threads fro sf and read many shoe care instructions and tips. And i plan to buy my first pair leather shoes (yeeey!) But i see on this forum and from other tips and instruction they all use saphire products, and in my country its difficult to find them (or you can tell me where to buy it if you know it biggrin.gif) what i often see is kiwi products, mink oil etc. Can the gurus tell me step by step what to do with new pair of shoes and the treatment with using kiwi products? Maybe other have experience using kiwi products? For change renovator or polishing cream?
thank you very much!!! biggrin.gif
sorry for any bad grammar frown.gif (oops)

If you read this thread for any length of time, you come to realize that nothing is set in stone; no product is all we wish it to be and there is no daily regimen or "step by step" that is certified to keep your shoes looking their best.

That said here's my "One" rule--keep the leather clean. Brushing regularly helps, wiping down with a damp cloth ever so often helps.

I've used Kiwi, Meltonian, Tarrago, Kelly, Saphir, Angelus, Fiebings, Lincoln, Esquire ...and many more that I've long since forgotten. Few of them are actually harmful...in the short term. Most of them are mediocre, in my opinion.

But then, unless I'm very much mistaken, this forum is not about the "mediocre." Despite all those who wish it was.
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

I have a serious question. How many people on here have actually had issues with their shoe uppers cracking? I feel like so many people on here obsess over a potential non-issue, and it is a fear more than anything. Me on the other hand, I have intimate experience with shoe leather failing so I feel a bit justified in my obsessiveness.

I have a pair of AE fifth avenues that have a crack in the upper. I suspect it is from overconditioning as these have been my test shoes. They have seen everything from coconut oil to lexol to obenaufs as well as polishing with various Saphir products. After seeing them crack I understood that it isn't positive for the leather to be overconditioned.
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Originally Posted by DWFII View Post

If you read this thread for any length of time, you come to realize that nothing is set in stone;  here's my "One" rule--keep the leather clean. Brushing regularly helps, wiping down with a damp cloth ever so often helps.

 

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 I understood that it isn't positive for the leather to be overconditioned.

 

That's my one conclusion after reading this thread and others: that my fellow shoe-lovers seem to be in a perpetual collective frenzy of polishing and conditioning and stripping and re-polishing.  Leave the damn things alone, brush off the dust, and wear them!  

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Originally Posted by DWFII View Post

If you read this thread for any length of time, you come to realize that nothing is set in stone; no product is all we wish it to be and there is no daily regimen or "step by step" that is certified to keep your shoes looking their best.

That said here's my "One" rule--keep the leather clean. Brushing regularly helps, wiping down with a damp cloth ever so often helps.

I've used Kiwi, Meltonian, Tarrago, Kelly, Saphir, Angelus, Fiebings, Lincoln, Esquire ...and many more that I've long since forgotten. Few of them are actually harmful...in the short term. Most of them are mediocre, in my opinion.

But then, unless I'm very much mistaken, this forum is not about the "mediocre." Despite all those who wish it was.

I see so experience and your own style and combining with other people experience is the best
thank for the suggestion biggrin.gif
I'm waiting for my shoes now, i'll post it as soon as i get it biggrin.gif
cheers biggrin.gif
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First time posting to the thread.

 

I'm looking to replace my boots that I have had for about 20 years. I bought two pairs at an Eddie Bauer Warehouse sale for $5.00 and $6.00 respectively. I was reading through the different care threads and I thought I would give the old girls one last hurrah before I tossed them into the bin. 

 

Here are the victims of my abuse; the brown ones are pretty tattered whilst the black ones are still in ok shape. 

 

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/GrymtJcl.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/G08ljVbl.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/gR2xhUGl.jpg[/IMG]

 

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/2YraP10l.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/vWtVkCrl.jpg[/IMG]

 

I started by brushing them and then cleaning them with saddle soap.

 

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/3qTN50il.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/GuzMCepl.jpg[/IMG]

 

Then I stuck a hairdryer inside for a couple of minutes to warm them slightly and then I hand applied Obenauf's Heavy Duty LP to them. They just drank it up.

 

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/dVlsPn1l.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/cEmPelnl.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/OwgkpOol.jpg[/IMG]

 

Of course the color is much darker as expected but I will follow up in a week to see where they go. They might possibly benefit from a pair of trees. 

 

 

I'm still looking to get a pair of RW GT's or IR's but I thought this would put a little more life into them. 

 

EDIT: Why the heck aren't these pics showing up?

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Originally Posted by mimo View Post


That's my one conclusion after reading this thread and others: that my fellow shoe-lovers seem to be in a perpetual collective frenzy of polishing and conditioning and stripping and re-polishing.  Leave the damn things alone, brush off the dust, and wear them!  

Exactly!

I mean, I sell the stuff and even I think many have appeared to go too far.

Take Renomat, for example. A good product, but I clearly say on my site to 'use it once or twice a year....max'. Yet, it appears some sellers are pushing it as an everyday type of product. Of course, we can't control how retailers choose to market or advertise our products it seems......
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

I have a serious question. How many people on here have actually had issues with their shoe uppers cracking? I feel like so many people on here obsess over a potential non-issue, and it is a fear more than anything. Me on the other hand, I have intimate experience with shoe leather failing so I feel a bit justified in my obsessiveness.

 

My first pair of "nice" shoes - purchased for a whopping $108 (in 1985) - was a pair of AE McAlisters, i.e. black wingtips.

 

Due to not knowing any better, they never saw a pair of shoe trees and only got polished upon (very) infrequent visits to the cobbler, who may or may not have also applied a little conditioner.

 

After 15 years of heavy service, I found out about AE's "reconditioning" program and mailed them in to "fix" the quarter sized hole in the outer sole, inner sloe, and sock liner.  They sent me a polite card asking me if I preferred to have them mailed back to me for disposal or would I rather AE give them a "dignified Christian burial." :)

 

Point being, they were abused and came to look like hell but the uppers never, ever developed any cracks.  Lots of creases but no actual cracking.

 

My gut tells me that cracking in "nice" shoes is more about being unlucky about getting the odd bad piece of leather and/or applying too much treatment to the shoes.  Obviously, the former is luck of the draw but the latter is self induced.

 

Now I rotate about a dozen pair (with much better maintenance).  Two pair - Imperials and Hanovers - are quite old and both in shell.  No cracks, however, on any of them. 

 

Maybe I'm just lucky.  Or maybe, as Patrick suggests, the whole fear about catastrophic failure of shoes unless one obsesses over them night and day is way overblown.

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Cracking is inevitable eventually. But most other cracking I would imagine falls under the category of "shit happens".
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

I have a serious question. How many people on here have actually had issues with their shoe uppers cracking? I feel like so many people on here obsess over a potential non-issue, and it is a fear more than anything. Me on the other hand, I have intimate experience with shoe leather failing so I feel a bit justified in my obsessiveness.

Great Question. My answer based on my experience: None (of course with good leathers/shoes and minimum maintenance). I have been following SF shoe threads for the last 6 years.  Until I discovered all forum´s recipes of cleanners, creams and waxes I just did the following; brush, damp cloth, brush, lotion (Saphir Cremme Universal) and brush. I have 14 pair of dress shoes for  rotation and kept all my shoes very well with that process (some of them 15 years of heavy wear). Since 5 years ago and due to this thread I bought a whole bunch of Saphir and MDO products that I do not use that much (Renomat, Renovateur, Pommadier 1925, MDO Wax)...and to be frank...sometimes I feel like I have spent too much money for so few.  Time will tell me.  Yes pB, we are all quite obsess but I really thank you all for the tips.:worship2:

 

Saludos.

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My RM Williams yearling craftsman vamp cracked after 5 years before even a resole. It seems nothing other than renovateur and saphir wax and creams. Doesn't bother me tho. They are due for a resole job and has been sitting for a year or so in storage.

On the other hand, my C&J of the same age did not crack at all.
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This site amuses me. It goes through observable cycles. First, there is the discussion about what creams, waxes and various arcane substances are out there to make your shoes look good. Then there is a backlash against all this. 'Don't keep putting stuff on them; wear them!'

 

I don't claim the higher ground here. I am as bad, if not worse, than anyone else. Yours truly, Munky. 

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All of my C&J's cracked in under 5 years. Corthay's cracked in like 10 months. Barker Blacks cracked in about 8 years.
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Seriously? That is crazy fast.
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I walk a lot.
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^

wow that's a lot of cracking pB

 do you shoes fit snug, or do you like a looser fit?

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