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No, shell was made for blade sharpening strops. If you're used to Alden shell they put this shellack over it, which makes it more water resistant. Also, AE puts some weird finish on theirs with this spray gun, which even on their calf makes for a weird finish that is more difficult to get a good shine on. Shell on any other brand of shoes is mostly naked and has issues. Is it durable? Yes, but durability and aesthetics are not the same thing.

Pat, I don't wear Alden shells. As for AE shells, I had to use a sponge, a dauber brush, and water to clean the finish off. I had my Hanover recrafted by AE and when the shoes came back it was horrible.

 

Some crazy folks here on the forum had started to use Renomat to strip Alden shells down. Craziest thing I've ever seen.

 

As of naked shells, wasn't it obvious that shell loves wax? I wonder why would one wear shell outside without at least a light cover of paste wax.

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Travers, you keep seeing things in a polarized way. By naked, I meant without shellack or an artificial topcoat. Of course there's wax on it, it comes like that from the tannery.
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Inset or aloft, the rationale for toe plates is like adding Heinz57 to a steak. The whole point of a replaceable outsole is to wear away rather than the upper itself wearing away. The whole point of a welt is to make replacing that outsole relatively straight-forward and simple. Toe plates protect part of the shoe whose sole raison d'etre is to protect the shoe...and wear out in the process and be replaced--full circle.

And if your toe plates are wearing out, presumably you can install rubber baby buggy bumpers on top of them to slow it down further.

The ironic thing is that inlaying a piece of Topy is probably just as effective as a metal toe plate and easier and less destructively mounted or replaced.

But Topy wouldn't make you sound like a Tiger III coming down the hall...which, I suspect, is the real attraction of metal toe plates.

The thing is where does it end? Where does the shoe leave off and the sabaton begin?

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post #11089 of 19213
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

No, shell was made for blade sharpening strops.
I actually have this one:
post #11090 of 19213
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Originally Posted by traverscao View Post
 

I somehow don't understand the problem of people and shell. Shell was made for cold, weather, and now you're all babying the stuff like it's a ball pump. Weird. I never get spotting on my shells, however, I do get cold feet with calfskin.

 

I have had spotting and welting on many shell shoes - AE, Alden and Carmina.  Spotting more often than welting.  I don't think my experience is an outlier.  But I also don't think it "weird" when the experiences of others are not the same as my own.

 

My AE shoes have not been babied - not at all sure where you get that notion from.  In fact, as my least expensive pair of shell shoes, these are the one pair I wear regardless of the weather.  But it takes a lot more effort to restore them to pristine condition than it does with either calf or suede.

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Originally Posted by traverscao View Post
 

Somehow toe taps and toe plates are my best friends, DW. I just cannot walk without them. It's not the click, but the fore-toe of the sole wear out too fast for me. With double sole that only delays it for a certain amount of time, however with single sole the toe deteriorates within 6 months.

 

Most of my leather soles have toe taps for this reason.  And I have to say, I don't notice much if any noise at all.  Heel plates - different story - those things are crazy loud.  Not to mention dangerous.

post #11092 of 19213
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post


.. Is it durable? Yes, but durability and aesthetics are not the same thing.

 

Correct again.

post #11093 of 19213
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

Travers, you keep seeing things in a polarized way. By naked, I meant without shellack or an artificial topcoat. Of course there's wax on it, it comes like that from the tannery.

Ah! The wax from the tannery is one of the unintended problem. That wax was impregnated, therefore that was what happened. Impregnated waxes react violently to external moisture penetrating, and shell itself was vegetable tanned, with means it takes and gives moisture VERY easily, therefore, when it rains, water moisture is sucked in by the hide itself, but when it wants to let go, the fats and waxes won't allow it to escape. Therefore we have little welting spots that we all are so out of love with. 

post #11094 of 19213
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Originally Posted by RogerP View Post
 

 

I have had spotting and welting on many shell shoes - AE, Alden and Carmina.  Spotting more often than welting.  I don't think my experience is an outlier.  But I also don't think it "weird" when the experiences of others are not the same as my own.

 

My AE shoes have not been babied - not at all sure where you get that notion from.  In fact, as my least expensive pair of shell shoes, these are the one pair I wear regardless of the weather.  But it takes a lot more effort to restore them to pristine condition than it does with either calf or suede.

OK. This is getting weirder and weirder... With calf, I get cold feet, but shell, everybody all had that hard time experience to restore the leather, while I don't have any problems at all! Weird cases.

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Call me squeamish if you want, but I just learned that Lexol may contain animal brain. I'm not sure I want a bottle of brain oil in my spare room. I know that some leathers are treated with animal brain but that seems different to having it in a bottle. Or is this just an urban myth? In which case, I am more stupid than I look. :embar:

post #11096 of 19213
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Call me squeamish if you want, but I just learned that Lexol may contain animal brain. I'm not sure I want a bottle of brain oil in my spare room. I know that some leathers are treated with animal brain but that seems different to having it in a bottle. Or is this just an urban myth? In which case, I am more stupid than I look. :embar:

Urban myth.

post #11097 of 19213
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Call me squeamish if you want, but I just learned that Lexol may contain animal brain. I'm not sure I want a bottle of brain oil in my spare room. I know that some leathers are treated with animal brain but that seems different to having it in a bottle. Or is this just an urban myth? In which case, I am more stupid than I look. shog%5B1%5D.gif

It is a synthetic sperm whale oil.
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For what it's worth, I spoke to Red Wing and they said there's no silicone in their RW-branded shoe creams. I'll stick with it for my Beckmans because I already have it and it matches up well with the brown, but I'll grab a jar of black Saphir or Glen Karen for the rest.
post #11099 of 19213
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It is a synthetic sperm whale oil.

I heard from somewhere that Lexol is primarily jojoba oil and soy oil, is that true?

post #11100 of 19213
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I heard from somewhere that Lexol is primarily jojoba oil and soy oil, is that true?

Check out this thread: http://www.styleforum.net/t/354137/leather-quality-and-properties/1200_30#post_7178073

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