Renovateur is neutral. It says 'Renovateur' on the jar. However, the Saphir shoe creams are in the same size and shape (usually) container. If he asks what colour, you aren't getting Reno.
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**The Official Shoe Care Thread: Tutorials, Photos, etc.** - Page 724post #10846 of 1928110/4/14 at 4:30ampost #10847 of 1928110/4/14 at 4:46amQuote:Originally Posted by Ireges
I am a little confused about whether or not Saphir Renovateur is colored and needs to be bought in a color matching that of your shoes. I was under the impression that it was a general purpose white cream that could be used on leather shoes of any color, though when trying to find some a cobbler was asking me what color it was that I needed, and hence my confusion.
We have a product - well sold in the repair industry (especially in Europe) - called Renovatrice. Perhaps that was the confusion. renovatrice is a tinted 'fix it' cream, mainly used in back room work, while Renovateur is a neutral balm.post #10848 of 1928110/4/14 at 4:54ampost #10849 of 1928110/4/14 at 4:58ampost #10850 of 1928110/4/14 at 7:41amQuote:
It's light, doesn't leave an oily or tacky residue and goes into the leather quickly. Put on too heavily and left in puddles, you'll some times see a dry white residue that seems more akin to wax than oils. It never stains the leather or darkens.
I use it because I've used numerous other products and it's the only one I trust in all circumstances to not create any problems. I also use it as a lubricant when chasing pipes and wrinkles and when blocking fronts.
There are lots of products that are fine and in my opinion maybe even come close but all things being equal Bick4 is the product I reach for most often.
Edited by DWFII - 10/4/14 at 8:21ampost #10851 of 1928110/4/14 at 9:00amThanks. Would it condition shell as well? I see differing opinions on what, if anything, penetrates shell well enogh to provide meaningful conditioning.
I have found that several products, and even none at all, seem to be fine keeping my shell shoes clean. But as far as conditioning older shell that appears to need a little TLC ... Well, I wonder if some of the frequently cited favorites might actually be ineffective or, at worst, counterproductive.post #10852 of 1928110/4/14 at 9:16amQuote:Originally Posted by Count de Monet
Thanks. Would it condition shell as well? I see differing opinions on what, if anything, penetrates shell well enogh to provide meaningful conditioning.
I have found that several products, and even none at all, seem to be fine keeping my shell shoes clean. But as far as conditioning older shell that appears to need a little TLC ... Well, I wonder if some of the frequently cited favorites might actually be ineffective or, at worst, counterproductive.
As long as the shell doesn't have a heavy opaque finish on it, I don't see why it wouldn't be just fine. Any conditioner needs to penetrate the surface of the leather to do any good. Some shell seems to be 'lacquered" and nothing penetrates that well.post #10853 of 1928110/4/14 at 11:01pmpost #10854 of 1928110/5/14 at 9:20am
I can't get Bick4, here in the UK but I have a bottle of (the brown bottled) Lexol. I have raised this before, but I am still a bit unsure when and how to use it. Do you only use it on shoes that have been neglected - to bring them back to life? Or do you them as a fairly irregular treatment for all of your shoes? Given that Lexol is liquid, does the usual proviso of 'less is better' apply? Do you only need a very small amount of it? Regards, Munky.post #10855 of 1928110/5/14 at 9:25amQuote:Originally Posted by Munky
I can't get Bick4, here in the UK but I have a bottle of (the brown bottled) Lexol. I have raised this before, but I am still a bit unsure when and how to use it. Do you only use it on shoes that have been neglected - to bring them back to life? Or do you them as a fairly irregular treatment for all of your shoes? Given that Lexol is liquid, does the usual proviso of 'less is better' apply? Do you only need a very small amount of it? Regards, Munky.
I'm sure that you can get Bick4 on the Internet--that's where I buy it (in larger quantities than retailers carry).
Beyond that, use Lexol whenever the leather looks or feels dry and esp. after you've cleaned your shoes. Use it liberally and as much as the leather will absorb and then wipe off excess.post #10856 of 1928110/5/14 at 9:49ampost #10857 of 1928110/5/14 at 10:07amQuote:
No....cleaning often removes resident conditioners and oils from the leather. Since dirt doesn't just lie on the surface but co-mingles with oils and gets literally ground into the pores, most cleaners have some sort of solvent that liquifies the oil as well as, I suspect, surfactants. Lexol (or bick4) replaces them.
When the conditioner has soaked in and is no longer evident on the surface of the leather, that's the time to polish.post #10858 of 1928110/5/14 at 12:38pmpost #10859 of 1928110/7/14 at 7:02ampost #10860 of 1928110/7/14 at 7:45am
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