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post #10276 of 10711

Greetings gents,

 

So I was really excited that I finally got my first pair of Allen Edmonds (Park Avenue)...!  And then it was a total kill-joy when I realized there was a huge crease/indention on one of the shoes.  I ordered these at Nordstrom and had them shipped to my house since they didn't have my size. 

 

I posted this in the Allen Edmonds Appreciation thread, but I think perhaps this post is better suited here. So should I return these immediately? Or is this not a big deal, and the leather will warp back into place (for lack of a better word)?  It's a hassle to have to return them and wait for them to arrive again, but I definitely do not want to keep them if they are permanently damaged.

 

I'd greatly appreciate your advice.  Thank you!

 

 

 

post #10277 of 10711
If you got them that way from the retailer, then send them back.
post #10278 of 10711
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Originally Posted by ovlov View Post

Not sure if I'm going nuts here, but is there any way/reason to darken shoes during a repair process?
Here's the rub
I got a pair of bespoke shoes made up for my wedding in navy. They were clearly navy when I chose them and when I received them. However there was an issue with fit. There was way too much room in tre toe box. So I took them back and was told they could be altered no problems. 6 weeks later they arrive. And I swear they are black now. If not black then such a dark navy that no one in my office could tell the difference.
It's not like they've even been shined up with black polish as they are desperately in need of some work.

Why would this happen? Is it possible or can I just not remember how dark they are

This sounds very bizarre. Maybe the shoemaker re-wet the shoe to re-last it and darkened the underlying leather during the process. Just a wild guess. Post some pictures.
post #10279 of 10711
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Originally Posted by ovlov View Post

Not sure if I'm going nuts here, but is there any way/reason to darken shoes during a repair process?
Here's the rub
I got a pair of bespoke shoes made up for my wedding in navy. They were clearly navy when I chose them and when I received them. However there was an issue with fit. There was way too much room in tre toe box. So I took them back and was told they could be altered no problems. 6 weeks later they arrive. And I swear they are black now. If not black then such a dark navy that no one in my office could tell the difference.
It's not like they've even been shined up with black polish as they are desperately in need of some work.

Why would this happen? Is it possible or can I just not remember how dark they are

Photos?
post #10280 of 10711
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Originally Posted by SlickTime View Post

So should I return these immediately? Or is this not a big deal, and the leather will warp back into place (for lack of a better word)?  It's a hassle to have to return them and wait for them to arrive again, but I definitely do not want to keep them if they are permanently damaged.

I'd greatly appreciate your advice.  Thank you!

Yes, and yes.
post #10281 of 10711
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

If you got them that way from the retailer, then send them back.

 

 

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Originally Posted by DWFII View Post


Yes, and yes.

 

Thank you, gentlemen.  Yes, that's how they came out of the box.  I'll be sure to return them then.

post #10282 of 10711
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post #10283 of 10711
My first attempt on mirror shine. There are 'micro bubbles' or some sort if you look at the pictures attached. Any idea what caused it?[IMG]
post #10284 of 10711
Calfskin...esp. chrome tanned calfskin...often exhibits "hair cell"--a pit in the grain surface where the shaft of the hair follicle once was.

I don't see any "bubbles" in your photo but you should understand that the hair cells must be filled with wax before a real mirror shine can be created.
post #10285 of 10711
Thanks DWFIIPerhaps this picture is clearer.



The tiny white dots are the 'micro bubbles' that I was referring to. Does the wax always fill up the pores or it's possible that the wax could not fill the pores completely thereby leaving a cavity under which appears like micro bubbles (I don't know how else to explain this)? They're not noticeable from eye level though. Apart from that I think I'm getting pretty close to a mirror shine.



Kindly ignore the the background 😁
post #10286 of 10711
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Originally Posted by jimmycth View Post

Thanks DWFIIPerhaps this picture is clearer.



The tiny white dots are the 'micro bubbles' that I was referring to. Does the wax always fill up the pores or it's possible that the wax could not fill the pores completely thereby leaving a cavity under which appears like micro bubbles (I don't know how else to explain this)? They're not noticeable from eye level though. Apart from that I think I'm getting pretty close to a mirror shine.

I still don't see what I would describe as "bubbles." Can you take a pin and puncture the "bubbles?"

I suspect you're using clear or neutral polish. It has gotten into the hair cell ...which is, as I said, a tiny "pit" and thus lower than the surrounding leather...and not been bulled. It's just dried wax in the pit. Since the wax is neutral, it dries white--the same colour it is in the tin..

I bull most of my shoes but I'm no expert on the subject. That said, I suspect that if you use a matching colour polish or begin the shining process by applying a matching cream to fill the hair cell (always a good idea no matter what colour), your problem will go away.
post #10287 of 10711
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Originally Posted by DWFII View Post

I still don't see what I would describe as "bubbles." Can you take a pin and puncture the "bubbles?"

I suspect you're using clear or neutral polish. It has gotten into the hair cell ...which is, as I said, a tiny "pit" and thus lower than the surrounding leather...and not been bulled. It's just dried wax in the pit. Since the wax is neutral, it dries white--the same colour it is in the tin..

I bull most of my shoes but I'm no expert on the subject. That said, I suspect that if you use a matching colour polish or begin the shining process by applying a matching cream to fill the hair cell (always a good idea no matter what colour), your problem will go away.

Ah. It makes sense now. I'm using mahogany polish though. Should've used a layer or two cream first. Is it too late now?
post #10288 of 10711
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Originally Posted by jimmycth View Post

Ah. It makes sense now. I'm using mahogany polish though. Should've used a layer or two cream first. Is it too late now?

Again, I'm not an expert...but I have used cream after bulling and as long as it is applied thinly and allowed to dry thoroughly, it's never been a problem for me. That said, my personal sartorial philosophy is that any colour of shoes is good as long as it's black.
post #10289 of 10711
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Thanks DWFIIPerhaps this picture is clearer.



Kindly ignore the the background 😁

welcome to the chase of the mirror shine!! hahha very good job for first attempt!!

there is nothing wrong its the wax in the hair pores of the leather!! i can suspect you havent applied more than 2-3 layers or too thin layers! one more reason to have this effect is not to work the layer of the wax as much as you have to and it stays on top not getting in the pores !!

 

the easier way to fix this (when the leather is not completely smooth and has pores) is to buff the first 2 layer with a vary soft brush and then start the bulling with the cloth!!

hope i helped you a little bit!!

post #10290 of 10711
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