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post #16 of 26
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Originally Posted by Patrick06790 View Post
Most of the shirts are non-iron, which many people find unacceptable. Also the 346 line shirts have averaged sleeves, which works out well for me since I am an in-between size.

I have quite a few of the non-iron point collar blue and white shirts. They are a standard go-to item for me. I do not find they have a problem with breathability, and I get hot easily.

I would avoid the non-iron buttondowns. Those collars will never roll properly.

Check any patterned non-iron shirts carefully for a sort of plasticky feel to them. If it's present don't buy. It won't go away with washing.

On the other hand I've found some non-iron patterned and striped shirts at BB outlets that were indistinguishable from a standard fabric.

The ties are usually the 346 line - nice enough, but nowhere near as substantial as the regular ones. Look carefully, though - "Makers" ties do sneak in from time to time.

Slacks are nothing to write home about - good enough if there's a deal. I do have a couple of their "brushed twill" trousers that have worked out well.

In short, a crap shoot, but worth investigating if you happen to be nearby.

The fact that many SF's consider machine washing and non-iron shirts taboo is plain stupid. These people need to get a life.
post #17 of 26
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The fact that many SF's consider machine washing and non-iron shirts taboo is plain stupid. These people need to get a life.

I haven't kept up with SF as much as I used to but do not recall any knowledgeable members knocking the practice of machine washing shirts. In fact, the most informative articles I've seen recommended the practice. The caveat seemed to be breaking buttons IIRC. I know many only hand-wash and it seems dry-cleaning is a total crap-shoot (and probably the worst thing for any garment).

The avoidance of non-iron is pretty straightforward due to the synthetic fibers contained in the cloth which retain odors and are generally considered not as breathable/comfortable, as 100% cotton.

As far as the OP goes, it is a tough question. The branding means little anymore IMHO. Obviously the 346 line is the lower line and must be scrutinized more thoroughly. In all lines some BB is made of the highest quality materials and some is not. Some of the made in China stuff is better constructed than some of the made in Italy. When looking at any garment (anywhere) it is advisable to look at the details. How is it "finished"? Loose threads or buttons? Is the stitching even? I guess if there is one thing I've learned here it is to pay attention. Once you start doing so the "subtle" differences become glaring.
post #18 of 26
I was just in the brooks brothers outlet a couple of hours ago, and I didn't see anything that caught my eye. $60 for "346" silk ties -- my $15 tiebar ties feel better, actually. $225 for wool SCs (1818) -- might have considered one if they had my size one thing that has me interested, though, is the 346 suits, their "BrooksStretch" line or whatever. They've got them there 2 for $499. There are some nice looking suits, but theyre all fused of course. Still, $250 for a new OTR suit that looks nice isn't a bad deal IMO. And, the 346 suits will probably hold up better than a kohls / belk suit at the same price point. just sayin'
post #19 of 26
I'm sure it depends on what area of the country you live, but I find Brooks Brothers all the time at my thrift stores, in all sizes, and all different lines (main, Golden Fleece and 346). Also, I've never found anything in one of their outlets that was worth what they were asking pricewise (IMO).
post #20 of 26
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Originally Posted by Faded501s View Post
As far as the OP goes, it is a tough question. The branding means little anymore IMHO. Obviously the 346 line is the lower line and must be scrutinized more thoroughly. In all lines some BB is made of the highest quality materials and some is not. Some of the made in China stuff is better constructed than some of the made in Italy. When looking at any garment (anywhere) it is advisable to look at the details. How is it "finished"? Loose threads or buttons? Is the stitching even? I guess if there is one thing I've learned here it is to pay attention. Once you start doing so the "subtle" differences become glaring.

Best advice in this thread.
post #21 of 26

checked out ebay as per this post. everything is second hand. i'm not gonna wear anyone else's clothes even if they're brioni or zegna and selling for $10.00. i'd rather do the legwork and get sale priced brooks bros stuff on sale.

post #22 of 26

If you must subject yourself to outlet shopping, look for items that are not made for outlets and nothing that has to be fitted or altered unless you absolutely know what you're doing.   I'd look for sweaters made in Scotland as well as accessories from the main lines. 

post #23 of 26

I find the main stores (not outlets) are the way to go.  I find the sales staff to be very knowledgeable and helpful.  They're also very good about returns.  In fact, I look up the items on the website and then order through the store. 

post #24 of 26
Some belts even though they're labeled 346 are made in Italy. Some scarves are also marked 346 but made in Scotland. They're a heck of a lot cheaper than retail especially after 40% off.

I find no difference with their wool socks with retail.

I found some retail items like cashmere sweaters last time I was there as well.
post #25 of 26

I'm a bit slow on the uptake, but I live out of the country, and I've been shopping at the BB in Freeport, ME, USA, for a couple years without realizing that the most of the stuff aren't legit "seconds." It's funny, but I don't like the patterns on most of the mainline BB stuff. I've looked at the online website and seen sweaters, SCs and suits I would never purchase simply because I don't like the patterns or the cuts. I did pick up an 1818 SC at the outlet because I liked the fit, but this particular model has no lining(!). What a strange thing to find in a supposedly high-end jacket. Honestly, if it didn't have the BB moniker, I'd probably be embarrassed to wear it. However, the jacket fits better than anything else I have that is OTR.

 

Mostly though, I like the BB 346 sweaters. The materials are great, and the patterns are laid back enough that I can wear them to dinner, to the club, out on the boat, or to the increasing number of occasions I encounter where your host has invited you over and not specified the level of formality. The 346 line seems to offer a level of versatility that I've encountered at some smaller stores in the Marais and scattered around Firenze.

 

As for shirts:  mainline BB shirts are ghastly; the 346 shirts are neutral enough that you can find occasions to wear them.

 

My one complaint:  I've purchased a handful of ties from the outlet store. Several were obviously nice quality. One seemed rather thin when I purchased it, but it matched a shirt I owned. I think I wore it three times before the fabric sort of curled at the knot and it was no longer wearable. Very strange and obviously disappointing.

 

My opinion on all this:  The fabrics seem pretty close on all these different lines. I'd bet the manufacturing costs are similar throughout and the difference between the lines is marketing. It's about branding... in other words, it's nonsense... or as somebody said about Holly Golightly, "She's a phony, but she's a real phony."

post #26 of 26
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Originally Posted by tiki2002 View Post

this particular model has no lining(!). What a strange thing to find in a supposedly high-end jacket.

Excerpt from WSJ article about unlined suits:

Contrary to popular perception, unlined suit jackets don't necessarily skimp on design. "If you have something half-lined or unlined there's a lot more workmanship," said George Simonton, professor of fashion design at the Fashion Institute of Technology in New York. "If it's unlined or half-lined, you can't have unfinished seams. The stitching has to be perfect. It costs more."
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