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post #31 of 55
Daniel and Bob belts. Amazing!

www.danielandbob.it




now here comes my favorite;

http://www.fabrizio-mancini.it/

Stunning Belts by Fabrizio!
post #32 of 55
Mark, thanks for the answers. I really like vermeil and have a Cartier watch with a vermeil case. That would be one good option for you. Is it your understanding that vermeil provides about a 20 micron coating?
post #33 of 55
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Originally Posted by Roger
Mark, thanks for the answers. I really like vermeil and have a Cartier watch with a vermeil case. That would be one good option for you. Is it your understanding that vermeil provides about a 20 micron coating?

Roger,

The legal standard in the U.S. is 100 microns.
post #34 of 55
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Originally Posted by caelte
Roger,

The legal standard in the U.S. is 100 microns.
Oh, jeez, that's really thick. I'd think that a sterling silver buckle with 100 microns of 18K gold plating would look virtually identical to 18K solid gold, and would be do-able at probably 1/10 to 1/8 the price. Or is the vermeil process expensive?
post #35 of 55
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Originally Posted by Roger
Oh, jeez, that's really thick. I'd think that a sterling silver buckle with 100 microns of 18K gold plating would look virtually identical to 18K solid gold, and would be do-able at probably 1/10 to 1/8 the price. Or is the vermeil process expensive?

I checked with the plater on this to be sure.

I don't know about costs yet, I'm sending a couple buckles out next week.
It could land up being an expensive process but cheaper than solid gold.
But solid gold is so nice

Being able to trust the plater doing the work is the main reason I'm attracted to the process. I wouldn't consider it otherwise.
Most of what I've seen is fake. Just regular plating posing as vermiel.

I can legally mark it vermeil and it is reversible in case it has to be restored.
post #36 of 55
Just a few thoughts:
Look for a custom crafter- a local leather artisan. Some may be better than others but you'll get something distinctive.
If you have an honest old-world cobbler shop (shoe repair) check if they offer belts or could recondition a favorite.
Generally avoid mall shops- you're paying extra for the overhead.
But then some of the major department stores offer decent belts. Macy's was mentioned. Dillard's has a brand that seems workmanlike, called Roundtree & Yorke. It's made in China, which probably means you're getting more for the money, but some belt afficionados may preder a belt actually made in the USA or England or Italy.
To me, $50 is a lot to pay for a belt! Often they do get hidden under a sweater or sport jacket!
I will try to get back to this thread because I wanted to suggest to you a belt from a maker but right now I can't recall anything except they are based in Branson, Missouri. Maybe someone else will know who I'm talking about.
I think that sometimes the truth is that you don't really know about the quality (durability) of a belt until you've owned it a while! I've had a belt or two that ultimately "curled up" lengthwise after some use and that's not attractive! Other belts get "wear lines" if you always use the same hole.

Jerry
post #37 of 55
these are my dress belts, couple from macys, few from nordstrom rack, couple from desert hills outlets, the nice brown one from johnston and murphy.

post #38 of 55
You might consider bespoke. There is April in Paris and Fleming to start with.
post #39 of 55
Roger, thank you for the kind words. Three midterms on the way, public presentations, and a stock simulation at the university all in the next week leave little time to come on here, unfortunately...


A couple of things to note:

Size - the sizes always vary depending on the maker. European makers, naturally, use metric sizes, so the buckles and dress straps you'll find are usually 30mm or 35mm. A 1 1/4" strap equates roughly to 32mm, so keep that in mind when buying both straps and buckles.

Quality - Roger's got some good advice in this area, so I'll merely echo it. Fullum and Holt is a local brand and they make for quite a few fashion houses, including Brooks Bros. if I remember correctly. Their house brands are good quality and are in the 125-dollar range. Usually all the belts you see in a department store under the various brand names are all made by a handful of companies. The big ones that make everything from Armani to Zegna number in the single digits. The next step up are the more quality-obsessed firms, like Longhi and erreghe, who make for Brioni. These firms make very good quality products and the price matches. Finally you have the artisanal makers like April in Paris (a wonderful lady with a good eye for quality), Herve N., and Duret. These are all in a league of their own. The quality and construction of all the makers varies, but the main determinant is always the intangible amount of "heart" that is put into a product.
post #40 of 55
You can find Martin Dingman who makes a great belt at Nordstrom.
post #41 of 55
Meaculpa is right about most of the belts on the market coming from a few sources.

AE has a gator belt with snaps. I called them to get some info on it.
As far as I could gather it came from the same source in Texas as most of the other gator belts ,RL, etc. I found them very unhelpful.

On the other hand, John Lobb was very friendly and informative.
They outsource their belts but use their own materials. I've never held one of their belts.

You have to hold a belt to judge it's quality.
It's alot like knowing how to judge anything else, a suit, a watch,shoes.
It's always possible to get by with something less.

But then, most people haven't ever seen a good leather strap.

The best belt maker I know of is Bill Julian. 860 844 8440
He spends an unreasonable amount of time on the details of the belt.
A gator in 1.25 goes for around $400. He makes about 30 or 40 a year.
The other two I send people to are Fleming's and April In Paris. These are high end belt makers.

Again, it's like high end shoes or anything else that takes time and is high quality.

Making a belt is a complex affair.
A good one is as hard to find as a good pair of shoes.
post #42 of 55
I sure like the "alligatored" red one, about three down in the pile on the left. Where's that from?
post #43 of 55
I promised to get back with info on Martin Dingman.

Here's their website...

http://www.martindingman.com/
post #44 of 55
Speaking about belts, how do these brands rank versus each other in terms of quality and not price?

Allen-Edmonds, Prada, Gucci, Cartier, Louis Vuitton, Versace, Salvatore Ferragamo.
post #45 of 55
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