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Any idea who made these?



post #2 of 15
I think C&J did BM work for CH...
post #3 of 15
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Whoops! I didn't post the link. http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-COLE-HAAN-HA...QQcmdZViewItem They're size 7 and BIN for $89. Great deal if they are C&J. Too bad the last thing I need is another pair of burgundy oxfords. Rolo
post #4 of 15
I believe they're Alfred Sargents.

It's a good deal for $89.
post #5 of 15
I have an the exact model in a light chestnut color. They're very well made, probably on par with Alden and better than Tyrwhitt.
post #6 of 15
Based on the lettering on the sole and my previous experience with the CH English made line, I believe these are from Alfred Sargent and not Crockett & Jones. Quality on these shoes is very good, maybe a notch below the Brooks Brothers Peal line. For $89 you could do much, much worse.

Like those $165 bluchers from Banana Republic. Hee hee.
post #7 of 15
These, albeit more worn, certainly look like C&J to me:

http://cgi.ebay.com/COLE-HAAN-BENCH-...QQcmdZViewItem
post #8 of 15
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Originally Posted by norcaltransplant
Based on the lettering on the sole and my previous experience with the CH English made line, I believe these are from Alfred Sargent and not Crockett & Jones. Quality on these shoes is very good, maybe a notch below the Brooks Brothers Peal line. For $89 you could do much, much worse.

Like those $165 bluchers from Banana Republic. Hee hee.

norcaltransplant - what is the watch in your avatar? Maier & Soehne? That's a sweet movement and display back!
post #9 of 15
I believe "Bench made in England" points to Cheaney. I'm pretty certain, that's their signature.
I haven't inspected Cheaney shoes in years, but if I'm in town tomorrow, I will check it out.

I suppose, over the years Cole-Haan English have commissioned any Northampton manufacturer in existence (and a few that are no longer).

P.S. Not C&J.
post #10 of 15
GDL-- Display back on an INexpensive German I picked up (Lindburgh and Benson). It's an ETA manual wind ebauche. Pretty rough finishing. I would have actually preferred a solid back to the display.

Bengal Stripe and Others: I like the Cheaney call. I knew the A.S. call wasn't quite right, but then I noticed the Brancock sizing typical of Cheaney shoes after Bengal Stripe made such an astute observation.

Correction: Inexpensive, as cheap.

Display backs are fun, even on budget pieces!
post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by norcaltransplant
GDL-- Display back on an expensive German I picked up (Lindburgh and Benson). It's an ETA manual wind ebauche. Pretty rough finishing. I would have actually preferred a solid back to the display.

Did you mean "expensive" or "inexpensive"? In any case, the movement looks quite nice from here - the bridges look reduced to their minimum surface (in a Glashutte chronograph kind of way... spaghetti bridges). Except for the hideous balance cock... Can't see the actual finish on the pic though...

Anyhow, if you would have "actually preferred a solid back to the display", why are you showing off the display back as your avatar?
post #12 of 15
In the earlier years of Cole Haan, the English Bench mades were made by Grenson. In the early nineties they changed manufacturers and could not say who they were.

Best Regards,

Gary
post #13 of 15
I like the Cheaney call.
post #14 of 15
Are they still a "good deal" at, say, $200 a pair? How about $100-150?
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Originally Posted by norcaltransplant
I like the Cheaney call.
Checked it today:
"Benchmade in England" is definitely Cheaney.
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