** Quintessential Crockett & Jones Thread ** (reviews, quality, etc...)

[blacksamurai30]

Hey guys quick question, I'm looking to buy a pair of crockett and jones cavendish loafers, and I am wondering what the general advice is on choosing a size. TTS, or size down? I've heard that the last is wide. I usually wear a 10.5 in AE Daltons (if that means anything). Thanks!

 

[B-Rogue]

Hallam is on 348, so definitely more elongated. I never thought about resole by CJ, since I don't live in UK anymore... Too much and takes too long (for me anyway, some would disagree). If topy worn out, you just replace with another rubber, must cobbler got to be able to do that.

Went to the Birmingham store in the end to try the various models (very pleasant and welcoming staff by the way). In the end decided to go with a pair of Radstock. Looked very nice and I suppose you can never go wrong with the classic shape.

Next purchase planned is a nice pair of cordovan Skye 2

 

[BespokeKiwi]

Another SF member kindly uploaded a comparison of several popular C&J lasts, which is very helpful for those of us trying to decide upon the most appropriate one.

Below I've rearranged the last comparison for myself. That is rounded toe lasts on the left and square toe lasts on the right.

Taking direction from C&J's retail catalogue, I've further refined the two above broad categories of lasts from more conservative (on left) to more sleek (on right), which other SF members may find useful.

 

[Louis XIV]

Appears as if 341 and 347 as well as 363 and 348 are very similiar besides the toe shapes.

 

[soender]

C&J is showing AW13 styles on http://twitter.com/CrockettJones
The Conistons in Navy looks like a must have.

 

[green garden]

Another SF member kindly uploaded a comparison of several popular C&J lasts, which is very helpful for those of us trying to decide upon the most appropriate one.

Below I've further refined the arrangement of the lasts for myself. That is rounded toe lasts on the left and square toe lasts on the right.

Taking direction from C&J's retail catalogue, I've further arranged the two above broad categories of lasts from more conservative (on left) to more sleek (on right), which other SF members may find useful.

This is very helpful. Thank you for the effort.

I wonder if there's a way to comment on fit as well? I've seen a similar diagram floating around the Alden forum where they comment which one is TTS and which ones need size adjustment.

 

[JimmyHoffa]

The 337 is the Audley, which is suppose to be quite conservative and not sleek.

But on the pictures above it looks very sleek!

 

[Journeyman]



The 337 is the Audley, which is suppose to be quite conservative and not sleek.

But on the pictures above it looks very sleek!

It does look very conservative, but I suppose that's not only because of the last, but because it is a very conservative style, as it is a plain captoe without any ornamentation at all.

I really like the 337 last - it is my favourite of the C&J lasts, not only because it fits my foot well but because I like the toe shape, which is a nice soft square shape, not as chiselled or "pointy" as the 348.

 

[JimmyHoffa]

Thanks for the clarification, JM.

When you say soft square toe you mean a nice rounded toe, not square toed shoes, the ones that get ridiculed so much?

 

[Journeyman]



Thanks for the clarification, JM.

When you say soft square toe you mean a nice rounded toe, not square toed shoes, the ones that get ridiculed so much?

By a "soft square" toe, I mean a toe that is not rounded (unlike the Edward Green 202 last, for example, and also unlike the lasts on the left in the above photo, but one that is a bit chiselled or angular, but not too much so, as the corners have been rounded off.

Not too aggressively chiselled, but not too soft and rounded, either.

 

[JimmyHoffa]

It's quite a unique toe, if you think about it.

See I would perceive the 341 to be more classic/conservative. It has a very gentle toe rounding, and on the left side of the shoe it rounds very smoothly. The 337 rounds quite sharply on the left hand side of the shoe which makes it look more narrow through the shoe. Perhaps in the flesh they'd be quite close.

 

[jrd617]

My C&J collection:


From left to right:

Bedford, 317 last, black calf
Radstock, 341 last, brown calf
Draycott, 317 last, chestnut calf
Brooks Brothers Algonquin, 325 last, brown pebble (developing burgundy undertone)
RL Marlow wingtip, 325 last, brown cordovan
RL Marlow loafer, 314 last, brown cordovan

 

[venividivicibj]

Would like to see the above chart with the 325 also compared

 

[jrd617]

venivi, what do you mean? not clear what you're asking. both 325's are in there already

 

[JubeiSpiegel]

^
Probably means to this chart