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Red blinds in front of the windows on a very very bright day... However, these are indeed darker than the Polo Belgrave's you would see in any of the C&J stores. This pair might have been one from an older batch perhaps, and they haven't had any outings in a long time either.

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Today

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They still look like a unworn pair, Cleav. They are happy shoes. Rejects got their revenge!

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You keep chipping away at my resistance to adelaides...
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Today

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You keep chipping away at my resistance to adelaides...

razl, it is not a quest of mine to convert you though I shall try nonetheless mwink[1].gif

OOI what is /was your aversion?
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OOI what is /was your aversion?

The aesthetic has just never clicked with me and I said on occasion that "I just don't like it" for no good reason; But, the more I see it - especially when done well - the less dislike I have for it. I'm still a ways from smitten, but I'm also quite a ways from my original resistance.
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razl, it is not a quest of mine to convert you though I shall try nonetheless mwink[1].gif
I look forward to future sessions smile.gif
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I see the Purdey boots just went up from £395 to £475. Quite a sharp increase.
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Ouch x2. I'd been waiting for the grain leather brogues (Islays) to come back in my size as well. My interest just waned too.

I hadn't visited Robert Old's site in quite a while, but today I saw they have C&J Islay's listed at 450£ (375£ ex. VAT) w/free shipping. Having been hovering on the "Purdey Islay" for a while, I had lost track of actual Islay pricing. I figured that Purdey must have moved in response to Islay's going up elsewhere but that doesn't look to be the case. Boy, they're ballsy to price theirs more expensive than an actual C&J Islay, but I suppose they have their reasons.
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resistance to adelaides? give in now...they are awesome

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I hadn't visited Robert Old's site in quite a while, but today I saw they have C&J Islay's listed at 450£ (375£ ex. VAT) w/free shipping. Having been hovering on the "Purdey Islay" for a while, I had lost track of actual Islay pricing. I figured that Purdey must have moved in response to Islay's going up elsewhere but that doesn't look to be the case. Boy, they're ballsy to price theirs more expensive than an actual C&J Islay, but I suppose they have their reasons.

Theoretically Robert old has a summer sale beginning this week. If it's like in the past (20-30% off) I may pick up a couple pair, beginning with something tan like Drummond or Clifford.
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^ RO's summer sale did indeed start today, but no C&J included as far as I can see.
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I hadn't visited Robert Old's site in quite a while, but today I saw they have C&J Islay's listed at 450£ (375£ ex. VAT) w/free shipping. Having been hovering on the "Purdey Islay" for a while, I had lost track of actual Islay pricing. I figured that Purdey must have moved in response to Islay's going up elsewhere but that doesn't look to be the case. Boy, they're ballsy to price theirs more expensive than an actual C&J Islay, but I suppose they have their reasons.

Of course, the Purdey boots could have been made to a higher spec than the regular C&J model...
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Of course, the Purdey boots could have been made to a higher spec than the regular C&J model...

Good point, I had inferred from some other comments re: the dainite sole on the Purdey being considered slightly lesser that the rest of the item followed suit, but that may very well not be the case. And/or, maybe the recent cost increase is because they've revised their specs upward (?).

I do wish I was local and could compare first hand, it's not really an option to "try out" from across the pond.
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My admittedly not-terribly-informed impression of the Robert Old vs. Purdey price differential is simply that Robert Old has very reasonable C&J prices relative to many of its competitors while Purdey, which will not even admit its boots are made by C&J, believes it can sell its products for more. Perhaps they've upped the specs but this doesn't seem the most likely answer to me. Purdey marked its stock up while others haven't (yet).
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Good point, I had inferred from some other comments re: the dainite sole on the Purdey being considered slightly lesser that the rest of the item followed suit, but that may very well not be the case. And/or, maybe the recent cost increase is because they've revised their specs upward (?).

I do wish I was local and could compare first hand, it's not really an option to "try out" from across the pond.

 

I'll say it again, but I don't think the Purdey cap toe derby boot I own compares badly to regular C&J offerings.

 

To put it into perspective, I sold my Coniston boots, owned for many years, when I got the Purdey equivalent. Admittedly, one of the reasons for that is that the Purdey is a higher-topped boot, but I wouldn't have kept them if I felt they were in any way inferior to the C&J offerings.

 

And, as I said before, I fail to see how a thinner Dainite sole on one model equates to a lower quality without seeing the requested build specs for both boots side-by-side.

 

Even if the boots are made to the exact same quality, Purdey can charge what they know they can get - and knowing the customer profile of companies like Holland & Holland, and Purdey, I doubt that they are in the business of scouring the internet looking for discounted sales or carrying out price comparisons...especially if they don't know (and/or care, just as likely) who makes the wretched things!

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I'll say it again, but I don't think the Purdey cap toe derby boot I own compares badly to regular C&J offerings.

To put it into perspective, I sold my Coniston boots, owned for many years, when I got the Purdey equivalent. Admittedly, one of the reasons for that is that the Purdey is a higher-topped boot, but I wouldn't have kept them if I felt they were in any way inferior to the C&J offerings.

And, as I said before, I fail to see how a thinner Dainite sole on one model equates to a lower quality without seeing the requested build specs for both boots side-by-side.

Even if the boots are made to the exact same quality, Purdey can charge what they know they can get - and knowing the customer profile of companies like Holland & Holland, and Purdey, I doubt that they are in the business of scouring the internet looking for discounted sales or carrying out price comparisons...especially if they don't know (and/or care, just as likely) who makes the wretched things!

Good info, thanks for keeping things balanced.
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