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Originally Posted by Cleav View Post

today


Is this the Westbourne in Brown?
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Cross post: C&J in the CBD.

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I'm about to make a order on Tan Scotch grain country boots as they don't have them in Dark Brown Country, meaning I would have to go with the MTO process to get them in Dark Brown, which is expensive and lasts too long.

The thing is, C&J store manager told me they have a "shoe doctor" in their store and that he can darken them to almost Beechnut color !?

I was wondering, what is a "shoe doctor" in the first place, and what's he going to do with the boots to darken them that much and will that be a permanent solution?

Is that something safe? I would be paying the full price for these boots, so I wouldn't like to give them a green light and receive a messed up brand new shoes ..

 

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Originally Posted by Nikola View Post

I'm about to make a order on Tan Scotch grain country boots as they don't have them in Dark Brown Country, meaning I would have to go with the MTO process to get them in Dark Brown, which is expensive and lasts too long.


The thing is, C&J store manager told me they have a "shoe doctor" in their store and that he can darken them to almost Beechnut color !?


I was wondering, what is a "shoe doctor" in the first place, and what's he going to do with the boots to darken them that much and will that be a permanent solution?


Is that something safe? I would be paying the full price for these boots, so I wouldn't like to give them a green light and receive a messed up brand new shoes ..


 

Sounds interesting - I would sure like to know this as well. I wonder if they have an example of this "beechnut" color?
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Basically they would have to turn the:

Scotch Tan Grain:
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into a beechnut brown:

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Basically they would have to turn the:
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Scotch Tan Grain:
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into a beechnut brown:




That's awesome. Would love to see this on the Coniston.
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Sounds like a vast waste of time and energy.

 

Just get them MTO.

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Well, I would like to see that too, as I do not like the open shade of Tan scotch color, but I'm just not sure how realistic that process would be?

That's why I wanted to consult with the SF crowd. I know it's easy to darken the shoes a bit with darker creams and waxes, but I am not sure will that process be permanent, or if that's the way  Crockett and Jones "shoe doctor" will do it.

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@PCK1 That's not the option in my case, as for a CJ MTO price I can purchase a Edward Green Galway boot, which is a whole level beyond the CJ.

Crockett Jones should really think about adding some more color options for certain models, I mean, It get's on my nerves that every time I want to order a brown oxford shoe on 236 last I can choose between Black and chestnut. And I hate chestnut. Where are all those cool shades of darker browns?

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They have innumerable dark brown oxford options...

 

And I know for a fact that C&J's MTO is not nearly as expensive as a Galway...because I have a Galway...and also I have done C&J MTO.

 

Moreover...why would you compare the cost of a boot to the cost of an MTO oxford? Obviously they are a different class of shoe and prices would vary considerably...

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@PCK1

You must have understood me wrong.

I said that for a MTO price of Crockett Jones Coniston Boot - I can purchase the Galway boot.

In Crockett Jones they just quoted me around 700 GBP / 1,200 USD for a MTO Coniston in Dark Brown Calf.

I can purchase these Galways for 670 GBP / 1,140 USD with a 10% discount they are offering:


http://store.westleyrichards.com/edward-green-galway-rosewood-country-boot

Also, they do have lot's of different browns, but for different models. Take a look on their web page, Connaught Oxford .. Only Black and chestnut. I meant- why don't they add more color options for each pair?

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I think that do an MTO only to have Dark brown it's a totally a waste of money!

Coniston and Islay almost certainly start from the same colour, here you can see a pic of the Dark brown Islay in the making before finish:

http://www.gentlemansgazette.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/An-Islay-boot-awaiting-lasting.-The-boot-will-eventually-be-stained-to-match-the-tongue-845x634.jpg

You should consider also that Pembroke/Coniston Tan could be from very light to very very dark, in my experience.

My advice is to buy a standard Coniston asking to send you the darkest available, and to darken it yourself with darker cream and polish as regular care.
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It really would be a waste of money IMO too, that's why I'm not even considering it.

My question was basically what will a "shoe doctor" do to darken them that much before they ship them to me, is such a process permanent and safe? Maybe he has some spray paint method besides cream/wax ..

The manager was pretty much serious about the idea that he can turn them into a beechnut brown, which is a much, much darker shade than Tan.

 

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It really would be a waste of money IMO too, that's why I'm not even considering it.


My question was basically what will a "shoe doctor" do to darken them that much before they ship them to me, is such a process permanent and safe? Maybe he has some spray paint method besides cream/wax ..


The manager was pretty much serious about the idea that he can turn them into a beechnut brown, which is a much, much darker shade than Tan.


Final Colour only depends from burnishing /finish process.

Probably they will call the factory asking to finish a pair darker or, if done locally, the "shoe doctor" will darken them with usual cream & polish, or maybe brush & dye (but I doubt)
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Is this the Westbourne in Brown?

Yes, sure are.
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