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For those who have both the Crockett & Jones Unlined Harvard Cordovan Penny and the Alden LHS Unlined Cordovan Penny. Do you use the Alden Van equivalent UK size on the Harvard? UK8E Harvard, US9D Alden. Thanks! I'd like to order the correct size coming out of the gate this time....nod[1].gif
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Pics are appalling, sorry. My camera is packed away somewhere whilst renovating the house so relied on my mobile and poor lighting, hah!

 

 

 

Hopefully you've got a vague idea now though. Not sure I'd wear them often with denim if they were more polished (prefer the Islay or Snowdon for denim anyway) but I think they work nicely with chinos and a shirt for a business casual environment. Tattoos are optional.

 

 

Thanks it helps alot. When wearing them, you mostly dress them up right?

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Thanks it helps alot. When wearing them, you mostly dress them up right?

 

Welcome. And yeah, I tend to avoid smooth leathers with denim unless they're waxy or otherwise matte, for the most part at least.

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Okay good, because I'd be dressing these up. I'd love the Islay if it wasn't scotch grain, makes it too casual for work.
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I'll be wearing the Islay to work when the temperatures have dropped a little. It's a very fine grained leather which further smooths out the more it gets worn.

 

We wear business casual at work, to put that into perspective a little.

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I wear my Islays to work quite a bit. I am generally wearing an odd jacket and trousers, along with a tie. I feel the scotch grain looks fine in these combinations, especially when the jacket is a bit more country, like something in brown.
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I was in Paris the other week and I couldn't miss the C&J store... now I'm short €600+...

Courtenay in burgundy calf, last 363.

Enjoy

 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by kwhunter View Post

I was in Paris the other week and I couldn't miss the C&J store... now I'm short €600+...
Courtenay in burgundy calf, last 363.
Enjoy











An absolutely beautiful pair of shoes sir. Are they your first handgrade C&J's, and do you think you would have benefitted from getting a MTM shoe? I'm just asking because its pretty cool if you can walk into a pair of $800 shoes and get a good fit.
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Originally Posted by kwhunter View Post

I was in Paris the other week and I couldn't miss the C&J store... now I'm short €600+...
Courtenay in burgundy calf, last 363.
Enjoy

I have the same shoe but my shine on the toes is no where near as nice. What is your method?
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Thanks!

 

I do have a follow up question. Was their a lot of difference breaking in your Selbourne's as opposed to your Hallam's?

 

Before I buy my new pair of C&J I have to be sure about size. I bought my Edgware UK8 (true to size) and I have worn them 7-8 days by now. I don't have any fit-problems around the toes. They hurted a little bit at first but now I'm very comfortable in that zone. 

 

At the heel they are not perfectly comfortable yet. I still expierence some heel slip, although it's not a big problem and it doesn't give me blisters. When I'm standing and move my foot as far upfront as I can there is just a little bit of room at the heel, I barely can squeeze a finger between the heel counter and the heel, so normally that fit should be perfect as well. Yet, when I'm wearing the shoes I have the impression that there is a lot of room there (heel slip). 

 

I've read on the internet that the Edgware's are not easy to break in, probably as a result of the stiff leather that is used for these shoes. Would this indeed be the problem? Do you think the shoes are not completely broken in after 7-8 days? Maybe I have to size down (a half a size) on my next C&J? I have to size that when I walk in them the leather still makes that typical sound of stiff leather.

 

Here is a picture of my shoes. I think the creases are normal and don't give the impression that my shoes are too big nor too small..?

 

I'll write a little follow-up for those who are interested. Today I went to the Brussels C&J to buy a new pair of shoes, a half-size smaller then my Edgware's to avoid the heel-slippage on my Edgware's. I explained my problem to the store manager who took a good look at my feet and she was of the opinion that the heel slippage is caused by my rather small heels. She said I have strange feet; normal-broad at the toes and very small at the heels. She said I shouldn't size down as she expects it would cause problems at the toes (she was rather surprised I didn't have toe-issues with the current UK8 size) and it would probably not solve the heel problem. After that she felt at the shoes and said that that the heel counter is still very stiff. She expects that I will be fine in a month or so if I keep wearing them, softening the leather. She also advised to wait until then to buy a second pair of shoes.

 

She also said that C&J shoes should be rather comfortable immediately after purchase (somebody said the same thing here in reaction on my previous post) but that it is normal that the break-in period is much longer for somebody with very small heels.

 

I was very happy with her service and help. I'll be patient and wear them another month and half and reevaluate after that (I'll write another follow-up post too). Thanks for all of your kind comments and help!

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This may not be news, but has anybody else noticed that they sell C&J at J. Crew?

Do they ever go on sale? I've know about the Alden's for a while, but was surprised to see C&J oxfords.
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Originally Posted by chipshot View Post

For those who have both the Crockett & Jones Unlined Harvard Cordovan Penny and the Alden LHS Unlined Cordovan Penny. Do you use the Alden Van equivalent UK size on the Harvard? UK8E Harvard, US9D Alden. Thanks! I'd like to order the correct size coming out of the gate this time....nod[1].gif

 

I have the harvard in dark brown shell...I am a US9D TTS....I took a UK8.5 and it was just dandy.

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Originally Posted by kwhunter View Post

I was in Paris the other week and I couldn't miss the C&J store... now I'm short €600+...
Courtenay in burgundy calf, last 363.
Enjoy











These are wonderful, wear them in good health!
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Originally Posted by Tuur View Post

She expects that I will be fine in a month or so if I keep wearing them, softening the leather. She also advised to wait until then to buy a second pair of shoes.
I wouldn't be so sure about that, considering that C&J uses plastic heel counters. Higher grade manufacturers use hardened leather which adapts to the shape of your heel; plastic is cheaper but possibly also more hard-wearing. The only change you can expect from the heel counters is that the sock leather will get rougher over time, which increases traction and may decrease slippage. A good cobbler can make an insert for this area, which may alleviate your problems.
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I wouldn't be so sure about that, considering that C&J uses plastic heel counters.
Does C&J use plastic heel counters in all of their shoes?
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