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Design or construction premium maybe for the cottesmore. Somebody with more shoe knowledge might chime in here, but are jodhpurs harder to produce due to less uncut leather and being a boot?

It is also quite sleek and a looker. Too bad it's probably too narrow.
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I (surprise, surprise) own both the Islay and the Pembroke. I say they have different purposes. I use my Pembrokes for trekking around during rainy days; My Islays are primary worn during REALLY bad weather (e.g., thunderstorms) and I have to get around. The fit of the Pembroke is closer to a smart shoe whereas the Islay is generously sized for a country boot (paired with thicker socks). I do like the taller shaft of the Islay (taller than my AS Fordham and Tricker's Stow) so it offers more support.

Hope this helps.

 

It sure does.

I have no access to C&J here, so it is hard to tell the differences from the images (I can tell the one is a boot of course smile.gif).

I realize the Islay, as much as I like it, is probably a bit too much for the Greek weather.

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After being on the Bodileys waiting list for 3 months my first pair of C&J's have finally arrived .Selbournesicon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

 

 

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Very nice!

As a question, is it standard to wait month for C&J RTW from Europe vendors? Are there times in the year that they stock back up by chance?
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Very nice!

As a question, is it standard to wait month for C&J RTW from Europe vendors? Are there times in the year that they stock back up by chance?

Pretty much every Europe online vendor that I checked had a waiting list on most C&J. Bodileys has a few C&Js in stock but models and sizes are limited.

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Design or construction premium maybe for the cottesmore. Somebody with more shoe knowledge might chime in here, but are jodhpurs harder to produce due to less uncut leather and being a boot?
It is also quite sleek and a looker. Too bad it's probably too narrow.
Not narrow at all. The Cottesmore is on the 341 which is a more generous last.
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It sure does.
I have no access to C&J here, so it is hard to tell the differences from the images (I can tell the one is a boot of course smile.gif
).
I realize the Islay, as much as I like it, is probably a bit too much for the Greek weather.
Depends on your style. There are people in Texas who wear boots all year. It is a more relaxed environment though. When I was with my fiance in Cyprus last summer, I pretty much wore my Alden LWBs and she kept saying I'd stand out because they were too dressy.
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Very nice!
As a question, is it standard to wait month for C&J RTW from Europe vendors? Are there times in the year that they stock back up by chance?
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Originally Posted by Mr Engineer View Post

Pretty much every Europe online vendor that I checked had a waiting list on most C&J. Bodileys has a few C&Js in stock but models and sizes are limited.
This started, maybe by coincidence, when C&J stepped up their own website and ecommerce. I assume most inventory would be sent to the company stores so they are usually kept in good stock.
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Since I've got your attention dpprdr. I think you have a pair of marlows. How does the 341 last fit in comparison to 325. The marlow wingtip fits me well TTS. I was thinking of picking up something in 341.

When people say generous last, it usually applies to average feet. I have a wider foot, on the wider side of 8E us size. So even on a generous last, I am worried on width.
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Originally Posted by DpprDr View Post

Depends on your style. There are people in Texas who wear boots all year. It is a more relaxed environment though. When I was with my fiance in Cyprus last summer, I pretty much wore my Alden LWBs and she kept saying I'd stand out because they were too dressy.

 

She was probably right, but if I met you I would certainly approve. I work in an office where brogues are indeed considered too dressy, I get this a lot.

Anyway, I guess I'll go for the Pembroke in tan, as it has a less strict seasonality than the Islay.

My argument for the Islay (or the Skye which also seems nice) is that I do not own any boots.

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^^^ Nikos, have you checked out the Harlech boot in shell cordovan? Once you get some shell you'll want more.
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She was probably right, but if I met you I would certainly approve. I work in an office where brogues are indeed considered too dressy, I get this a lot.

Anyway, I guess I'll go for the Pembroke in tan, as it has a less strict seasonality than the Islay.

My argument for the Islay (or the Skye which also seems nice) is that I do not own any boots.
The lighter color of the Pembroke would probably work better in the climate too! I think you can't go either way.



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Since I've got your attention dpprdr. I think you have a pair of marlows. How does the 341 last fit in comparison to 325. The marlow wingtip fits me well TTS. I was thinking of picking up something in 341.

When people say generous last, it usually applies to average feet. I have a wider foot, on the wider side of 8E us size. So even on a generous last, I am worried on width.
I do have the RL Marlows which are similar to the Pembroke since they both on the 325. However, there is some discussion as to how C&J and RL convert their sizing from UK to US. For the RL Marlow, I wear US 7D and on the 341 I wear UK 6E. I find the Marlow just a tad longer, however, I find m shoes on the 241 more generous (if not slightly wider) in comparison. Did you stay TTS on your Marlow?
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I did go true to size, slight heel slip in the back, but it is getting better after break in. Forefoot is just right at the ball and yes slightly long in length. Overall I'm satisfied.

Thanks for your sizing guidance. I'm going to give the 341 a shot in UK 7, full size down from US sizing at some point. I was eyeing a few models from brooks brothers peal line, which I believe are on the 341.
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Question for the CJ boot crowd regarding size, I have Brecons and Tetburys in UK 9, I am now looking at Islays,, so for those who might have both, would I size as the same? Thanks in advance.


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Originally Posted by WiredandTired View Post

I did go true to size, slight heel slip in the back, but it is getting better after break in. Forefoot is just right at the ball and yes slightly long in length. Overall I'm satisfied.

Thanks for your sizing guidance. I'm going to give the 341 a shot in UK 7, full size down from US sizing at some point. I was eyeing a few models from brooks brothers peal line, which I believe are on the 341.

I have several shoes on the 341. Go TTS 1 full size down to UK. This llast is narrower than the 325 which a lot of guys size down 1/2. I could get away sizing down on the 325 but definitely not the 341.
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I wear US10.5D on the Marlow wingtip, US11D on the Marlow loafer, and UK10E on the 341 last. All fit roughly the same.

FWIW, I haven't done any last-to-last comparisons with the RL models, but the Barneys models in D width are definitely narrower than the equivalent UK models in E width. The US11D in Barney's shoes on the 341 last (Sydney, Finsbury, etc) are too narrow for my foot. Similarly, I can wear US11D on the 335 last (Chelsea 5) but the UK10E is too loose.

Hope this helps.
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Congrats! That's a heckuva way to start a membership.

If you haven't cross posted already, I'm sure the oglers on the Recent Purchases thread will enjoy your contribution: http://www.styleforum.net/t/79083/recent-purchases

And, Welcome to StyleForum.

 

 

 

thanks for the comments, I love them so much I may pull the trigger on either a drummond or finsbury depending on how they fit :) I was eyeing the Clifford as well but it's a little out of my budget for now...lol

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