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post #3796 of 6680

Funny ... I actually returned these same C&J Weymouths when I bought both 8.5 and 9 to try out.  Received the Westbournes in 9 instead of the Weymouth.  Would have kept them but alas I needed the 8.5. 

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What Size?

 

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Oh man, you have those spectators, now Im really jelous smile.gif
nice collection so far

Yes very nice but color looks alike. Could you take photo with the light at your back?
post #3799 of 6680
In other words, light facing front of shoes
post #3800 of 6680
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I ordered the supposed pair of weymouths from Barneyswarehouse that was one sale for $369, it was the westbournes instead.  I'll be returning them.  Its got the sticker and barcode saying weymouths on the sole, therefor it might be proccessed as the weymouth again, just letting you guys know.

aha, that sucks.
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Can anyone comment on fit difference between c&j 240 last (for peal) and AE #5 last? Length, width and instep?
post #3802 of 6680
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Can anyone comment on fit difference between c&j 240 last (for peal) and AE #5 last? Length, width and instep?
I wear a 9.5 E in AE 5. I wear a 9.5C (bb American sizing conversion I think) in the 240 last. I probably could have done with a D width, but since it was a monk strap, I needed a tighter fit to prevent heel sleep. Length, I believe, is similar. AE 5 last is probably a little narrower.
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Can anyone comment on fit difference between c&j 240 last (for peal) and AE #5 last? Length, width and instep?

AE's 5 last is narrower and longer. I wear 9D in AE's 5 last and 9.5D in the Peal (US sizing).
post #3804 of 6680
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AE's 5 last is narrower and longer. I wear 9D in AE's 5 last and 9.5D in the Peal (US sizing).

Not to throw more confusion into this, but in the same stated US size, I find the Peal 240 to be roomier than AE 5. Disclaimer should be noted: I'm comparing AE calf shoes to the Peal cordovan boot.

Another note: I personally do not put much faith into the last numbers (and widths) that C&J puts into Peal shoes. I have both a C&J Westfield (341) in E width and it is the same length as the Peal burgundy captoe (also purported to be on the 341) half-size up in US width. However, the Peal in both D and E widths (US) are tighter than the UK 341 in E. On top of that, comparing the two pairs of shoes, you'd guess they were on different lasts despite the fact that they both have 341 written in them.
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Originally Posted by raphaelargus View Post

Not to throw more confusion into this, but in the same stated US size, I find the Peal 240 to be roomier than AE 5. Disclaimer should be noted: I'm comparing AE calf shoes to the Peal cordovan boot.

Another note: I personally do not put much faith into the last numbers (and widths) that C&J puts into Peal shoes. I have both a C&J Westfield (341) in E width and it is the same length as the Peal burgundy captoe (also purported to be on the 341) half-size up in US width. However, the Peal in both D and E widths (US) are tighter than the UK 341 in E. On top of that, comparing the two pairs of shoes, you'd guess they were on different lasts despite the fact that they both have 341 written in them.

I agree that the Peal 240 has more volume in the toe box, and is, to that extent, roomier. I've had calf and shell in each last.

To your second point, I have owned 2 similarly designed and lasted calf monks - one C&J stock model in UK8.5e and one C&J for BB (Peal) in US9.5d. The Peal version, as measured on the outsole, was easily 1/2 inch longer.
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

I agree that the Peal 240 has more volume in the toe box, and is, to that extent, roomier. I've had calf and shell in each last.

To your second point, I have owned 2 similarly designed and lasted calf monks - one C&J stock model in UK8.5e and one C&J for BB (Peal) in US9.5d. The Peal version, as measured on the outsole, was easily 1/2 inch longer.

Now this is interesting.. I read elsewhere that the peal 240 is a narrow last.

However, from outsole measurements, the 240 seems even wider than a US D width! Does anyone have the experience of the peal 240 fitting wider than D?

Am I right in saying the peal 240 is shorter and wider than the ae 5 when comparing the exact same marked US size?
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Another thing, is scotchgrain more water resistant than normal calf? Or is it just a difference in aesthetics?
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Am I right in saying the peal 240 is shorter and wider than the ae 5 when comparing the exact same marked US size?

It is definitely wider. I am a D width in the AE 5 and a C width in the Peal 240. I have not noticed a difference in length.

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can anyone ID these shoes? the pattern made me think of Selborne, but since I've only seen pictures of the shoe on the internet and never in person I can't quite tell if the last is the same.. The Selborne looks like it possibly has a fuller toe cap? Anyway, it might be impossible to tell from this picture, but if anyone has any insight that would be great (and of course you can click on pic to enlarge).

 

 

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post #3810 of 6680

did a little research online, they actually look a lot closer to these shoes.. almost identical.. unfortunately they list a bunch of names and I wouldn't have the slightest idea of which one is most likely.. maybe Lattanzi?

http://fr.groups.yahoo.com/group/soulierdeluxe/

 

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