Osborn, you might be right based on an objective construction/quality assessment, but wasn't there something else...oh yes...shoes should also look great. I admit that styling is not a objective criterion. However, for me there is little which could beat C&J no matter if handgrade or benchgrade, e.g. the benchgrade Lowndes is the most beautiful double monk I have seen and well worth its price.
the most usefull thing that can be said about C&J is that if you are comparing shoes at retail price, their benchgrades are pretty weak but their handgrades are good shoes (I am talking in price/quality ratios)
Note however that for what you pay retail for a C&J handgrade you can get a discounted (for one reason or another) standard range EG and JLP (which are nicer; believe me) and if u look carefully 2 pairs of "former royal collection" (i.e retail Â£475) Churchs.
Since discounted C&J handgrades are quite hard to find this makes the whole C&J brand not that attractive
-my 2 cents
This post is woefully ignorant. why the fuck would you compare MSRP CJ with ebayed EG?
You can get discounted CJ all day from pediwear.
Price not considered, there is not a single Church's I would take over my top 10 CJ handgrades
since intelligent posts from osborn are hard to find this makes the whole osborn e-ouvre not that attractive
Are those C&J's considered wholecuts? What'd be the proper term for those?
Those Bally's are also beautiful, what model and how much did it set you back?
The Weymouth is a wholecut from the handgrade line. The color is much nicer in person. The double monks are Bally Scribes, forgot the name of the model though. Got them for just a little over 300USD at 60% off from a Bally outlet in HK.
Holy shit! It appears that Crockett & Jones owners actually wear their shoes ... unlike the Edward Green, John Lobb and G & G people on this forum. I guess that's the difference between utilitarian objects and works of art, huh?