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post #211 of 8357
Probably a dumb question, but how much toe space should there be in 348 last?

I wear a US 10d in most shoes, and received a UK 9E in Hallams. With thin socks, there is a good amount of space in the toe and a little slipping in the back, but the width is great. With fairly thick socks they fit just fine. Should I go down to an 8.5 or will they kill my feet? Theres no C&J store near me so its hard to compare sizing. I also don't feel like going through the hassle of re-selling or returning...
post #212 of 8357
I'm not sure if this has been posted here or on another thread before. C&J is making shoes for Paul Smith. I'm a fan of ps shoes and I have a few pairs but all of them are made in italy.. This seems to be a great improvement for ps.

Does anyone have an idea about the last (doesn't look like a 337 or 348) and grade (benchgrade vs. handgrade)?

photos from paul smith website:







post #213 of 8357
Those look nice. I like the cap toe. Looks a little like the 318 last from the C&J catalog.
post #214 of 8357
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Originally Posted by Parker View Post
Those look nice. I like the cap toe. Looks a little like the 318 last from the C&J catalog.

+1.

The 318 is probably my favourite C&J last; shame they don't use it for more models.
post #215 of 8357
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Originally Posted by upr_crust View Post
C & J Edgware - one of the dubious advantages of living in Manhattan is that there is now a C & J store on W. 56th St. - good for my style, bad for my credit rating.

Oh cool, I didn't recognize them at first, but I actually have the same Edgwares in brown

Too many shoes too keep track of

myke
post #216 of 8357
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Originally Posted by IBJanky View Post
Oh cool, I didn't recognize them at first, but I actually have the same Edgwares in brown

Too many shoes too keep track of

myke

Been there, done that, have the bills to prove it .
post #217 of 8357
I'm a small US 10D and I've had success going to an 8.5F on the 348 last.
I can do an 8.5E as well but I have to break the shoes in a bit as they are
a tad snug at first.


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Originally Posted by Ag229487 View Post
Probably a dumb question, but how much toe space should there be in 348 last?

I wear a US 10d in most shoes, and received a UK 9E in Hallams. With thin socks, there is a good amount of space in the toe and a little slipping in the back, but the width is great. With fairly thick socks they fit just fine. Should I go down to an 8.5 or will they kill my feet? Theres no C&J store near me so its hard to compare sizing. I also don't feel like going through the hassle of re-selling or returning...
post #218 of 8357
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Originally Posted by aon View Post
I'm not sure if this has been posted here or on another thread before. C&J is making shoes for Paul Smith. I'm a fan of ps shoes and I have a few pairs but all of them are made in italy.. This seems to be a great improvement for ps.

Does anyone have an idea about the last (doesn't look like a 337 or 348) and grade (benchgrade vs. handgrade)?


They're selling for $810 to $850 so I would assume/hope they are hand grades. But you never know.
post #219 of 8357
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Originally Posted by Kaplan View Post
+1.

The 318 is probably my favourite C&J last; shame they don't use it for more models.
Tell me a bit more about this last... how does it compare to, say, the 341 or 337?

And do you have any experience with the 317? Am thinking of getting a Draycott.
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Originally Posted by Knowledge is King View Post
They're selling for $810 to $850 so I would assume/hope they are hand grades. But you never know.
Remember that you are paying a markup for the 'Paul Smith' brand.
post #220 of 8357
^ AFAIK the only model C&J currently have on the 318 last is the black Dartmouth, which is the one I have (at some earlier time they had this model in both dark brown suede and a light brown calf, I believe).

Compared to the 341, it's about the same width but slighly less elongated (about a ½cm shorter in an 8½UK). They fit me about the same.

To me the 318 looks identical to the 238 last of my Chelsea's - apart from one being a shoe and one being a boot, of course.

Sorry, but no experience with the 317 and all I can recall about the 337 is that it didn't work for me, though I don't think it was as bad as the 348 was.
post #221 of 8357
Thanks K - you're a good guy.
post #222 of 8357
^ You're most welcome
post #223 of 8357
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Originally Posted by Knowledge is King View Post
They're selling for $810 to $850 so I would assume/hope they are hand grades. But you never know.

For most contracts C&J usually finish the shoes to between bench grade and hand grade standard in my experience.
post #224 of 8357
These are private label CJs

What is the model? What would be the price estimate? Thank you!





post #225 of 8357
wow those are horrible

btw, you guys realize CJ has done Paul Smith before?
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