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post #9976 of 12785
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Originally Posted by Leonardo Da Vinci View Post


If it may helps I can give my opinion on some lasts you mentioned.

I own a 325 last and also a 236 last ( connaught model as the one you'd like to buy now.

If you have a normal shape of feet, I can say the connaught are roomier than a 325 lasted model.

Keep ind mind you also have to consider the shoes construction:

For example, the 325 last model I own is a pair of pembroke, which has a double sole, goodyear welt and dainite outsole. It's in grain calf and the most important thing, is a full brogued derby.

While for the connaught: it's an oxford cap toe model in calf, single leather sole.

The ball foot of the connaught is roomier than the 325 of the pembroke, but as I said before keep in mind the pembroke has a heavier construction, so there is less space for the foot inside.
Even the instep of the connaught is ok for me in comparison with other oxford models: as you know people with a high instep might have some problems with oxford shoes, but I say one more time, if you have a normal foot, you should not have any problems with the connaught
In my case I had to size up for the pembroke of 1 size even because I couldn't think to break them down wearing them, cause a brogued shoes it's very hard to loose, while a plain calf shoe will easily loose.
Just to add another detail: I also have the pembroke in 317 last that means G fittiing and in this case I wear the same size of the connaught.

I don't know how confy the 325 conistion were for you since the beginning, so, hope you can use my experience to have a more clear idea on the sizes.


Could I ask how the Pembroke compares on the different lasts please?

post #9977 of 12785
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Originally Posted by Webbo View Post


Could I ask how the Pembroke compares on the different lasts please?

It depends a bit on your foot, but generally speaking forget to wear the same size for the pembroke in 325 last and the pembroke in 317

the 325 is E fitting, while the 317 is G fitting.
In my case I had to size up 1 full size from the 317 G.

The 325 E is very tight, at least for me, and being a brogued model does not help to feel them comfier with the time passing; so my advice is, if you feel this model tight since the beginning, just leave it and go for a bigger size: half size or 1 size up as happened to me.
post #9978 of 12785
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Originally Posted by Webbo View Post


Could I ask how the Pembroke compares on the different lasts please?

,,,,,,,,,,,,,And same thing for the Grasmere with the difference they're not brogued, so they loose a bit easier
post #9979 of 12785
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Originally Posted by Leonardo Da Vinci View Post

It depends a bit on your foot, but generally speaking forget to wear the same size for the pembroke in 325 last and the pembroke in 317

the 325 is E fitting, while the 317 is G fitting.
In my case I had to size up 1 full size from the 317 G.

The 325 E is very tight, at least for me, and being a brogued model does not help to feel them comfier with the time passing; so my advice is, if you feel this model tight since the beginning, just leave it and go for a bigger size: half size or 1 size up as happened to me.
^ +1000
post #9980 of 12785
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Originally Posted by Leonardo Da Vinci View Post

It depends a bit on your foot, but generally speaking forget to wear the same size for the pembroke in 325 last and the pembroke in 317

the 325 is E fitting, while the 317 is G fitting.
In my case I had to size up 1 full size from the 317 G.

The 325 E is very tight, at least for me, and being a brogued model does not help to feel them comfier with the time passing; so my advice is, if you feel this model tight since the beginning, just leave it and go for a bigger size: half size or 1 size up as happened to me.


Just got the Pembroke on the G, 317 last. Great fit but a heavy shoe. Does anyone have any thoughts on how long a C&J brogue like the Pembroke will take to break in?

post #9981 of 12785
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Originally Posted by Webbo View Post

Just got the Pembroke on the G, 317 last. Great fit but a heavy shoe. Does anyone have any thoughts on how long a C&J brogue like the Pembroke will take to break in?


Fantastic! I wonder if I could fit that model. If I wear Vass 44 H (P2), Alden 10.5 3E (Barrie), AE 10.5 3E (65), Bonafe 10 H (946), would I take size 10 G on this last?
post #9982 of 12785
I take a 44 P2 Vass (regular fitting) and a 10 E Barrie and these Pembroke's are spot on for length against these two but definitely wider and more overall volume.
post #9983 of 12785
For those of you who have 317 in G fitting, what sizes/widths do you wear in other lasts and other makers? Trying to determine whether the G width would be a US E or EE.
post #9984 of 12785
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Originally Posted by rc121 View Post

For those of you who have 317 in G fitting, what sizes/widths do you wear in other lasts and other makers? Trying to determine whether the G width would be a US E or EE.


Having bought both recently I feel that the G on 317 C&J Pembroke is a touch wider than the Alden E fitting PTB on the Barrie last.

post #9985 of 12785
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Originally Posted by Webbo View Post


Having bought both recently I feel that the G on 317 C&J Pembroke is a touch wider than the Alden E fitting PTB on the Barrie last.

What lengths do you compare?

I'm definitely a 3E in Barrie last, E width is too tight. frown.gif
post #9986 of 12785
Both with size 10. The C&j seems just a touch longer than the Barrie.
post #9987 of 12785
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Originally Posted by Webbo View Post

Both with size 10. The C&j seems just a touch longer than the Barrie.

Thanks. Ok, it sounds like there's a chance these will be too narrow, even in G.
post #9988 of 12785


Hi gents, cross post from the RL thread, need a bit of advise on these bad boys - got them off Yoox at amzing price and love them at first sight

They fit really nice when i tried them on, but there is a bit of heel slipage & a bit roomy at the toe box when walking - will these go away when i fully break in (these have double leather) - this hypothesis work really well with all my other shoes/boots - just not sure with loafer

Thanks for the help
post #9989 of 12785
Lindrick GMTO: Only one slot left!

Gentlemen,

As of now we only have one slot left on the Lindrick GMTO. The details are:
  • Style: Lindrick
  • Last: 325
  • Width: E
  • Colour: dark brown shell cordovan
  • Sole: Double leather
  • Welt: Storm
  • Eyelets: Metal + speedhooks
  • Price: 583.33 pounds excl. VAT, or 700 incl. VAT

    Shoe trees will be an extra 50/60 pounds (excl./incl. VAT), and shipping will be 10 pounds for the UK and 30 pounds for EU and the states – the rest of the world I believe will be around 50 pounds.



    Some more very appetizing photos can be seen here.

    This is the very last chance to join a GMTO of this boot no longer in production and even for the old price (before C&J's current price increase). If interested in the last slot kindly send me a PM asap, and the order will be placed next week - and you will have the bots in about 12 weeks time – just in time for autumn icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

    Cheers,
    SKM
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