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post #991 of 12795
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Originally Posted by Gdot View Post


Lovely,
Move to the US. You can wear those shoes any day of the week here! (Unless you work in a VERY conservative environment.)
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I lived in NYC for a few years - before I knew what good shoes were though.

 

Go Giants!

 

 

 

post #992 of 12795
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Originally Posted by mxgreen View Post


Wrong!!!!
In an e-mail to me C&J stated very clearly that a UK11.5E is a US12D. And, in fact, I wear a US12D or a UK11.5E in each of the following shoes - C&J for Barneys Connaught (236 last) marked US12D, C&J for RL Darlton shell wingtip (325 last) marked US12D, C&J for Foster & Son Ascot captoe (324 last) marked UK11.5E, and C&J for RL Benton (337 last) purchased from UK seller and marked UK11.5E.
Look everyone is different; some go down 1/2 size, some a full size. You have to try the shoes on to see what is your correct size. It can get very expensive - it did for me - because there are not many US sellers of C&J shoes. But, you may be able to try on a variety of C&J made shoes at a local Brooks Brothers or Ralph Lauren to get a feel for your correct size.


C&J @ Royal Arcade also told me that I am in UK 9.5E (I am 10D US), but in reality I am UK 9E.  Same thing w/ G&G guys, Tony sized me a 9.5G when in reality 9.5F fits great if not a bit loose.

 

It's simple; better for them to size you (online lol) a bit bigger to minimize the number of returns and complaints.  As long as you can wear them, you won't complain!

 

Barney's mark C&J 1 size up AFAIK.

 

Again, C&J and JL = full size down, EG and G&G = half size down.  And for disclosure, I've worn 358/337 and tried 348/341.

post #993 of 12795
I have to agree - size down a full size from US to C&J's UK sizes. Unless you run on the wider side, in which case you might get away with only a 1/2 size down.

I was sized in the Royal Arcade store as well - I ended up 1.5 sizes down from my US size. I'm so happy with the fit that I ordered 4 more pairs on the same last after returning to the US. No regrets at all here, for my foot the sizing is spot on.
post #994 of 12795
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Originally Posted by Gdot View Post

I have to agree - size down a full size from US to C&J's UK sizes. Unless you run on the wider side, in which case you might get away with only a 1/2 size down.
I was sized in the Royal Arcade store as well - I ended up 1.5 sizes down from my US size. I'm so happy with the fit that I ordered 4 more pairs on the same last after returning to the US. No regrets at all here, for my foot the sizing is spot on.

How did your toes cope?
post #995 of 12795
toes = no problem for me.

The C&J 348 in 6.5 are just as wide as G&G in a 7 as far as I can tell. Certainly no shortage of length either.
post #996 of 12795
I size down 1/2.
post #997 of 12795
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post



C&J @ Royal Arcade also told me that I am in UK 9.5E (I am 10D US), but in reality I am UK 9E.  Same thing w/ G&G guys, Tony sized me a 9.5G when in reality 9.5F fits great if not a bit loose.

It's simple; better for them to size you (online lol) a bit bigger to minimize the number of returns and complaints.  As long as you can wear them, you won't complain!

Barney's mark C&J 1 size up AFAIK.

Again, C&J and JL = full size down, EG and G&G = half size down.  And for disclosure, I've worn 358/337 and tried 348/341.

I'm not trying to beat a dead horse but that is not true of the two pairs of C&J for Barneys that I have owned - both the Connaught (236 last) in 12D and the Keswick boot (325 last) in 12D are the equivalent of UK 11.5E.
post #998 of 12795
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Originally Posted by mxgreen View Post


I'm not trying to beat a dead horse but that is not true of the two pairs of C&J for Barneys that I have owned - both the Connaught (236 last) in 12D and the Keswick boot (325 last) in 12D are the equivalent of UK 11.5E.


One thing is certain. When a CJ shoe is born it is a certain size (let's call it an X). If it is for sale in the USA, then it is called an X+1. Always.

 

What size in a particular last will fit you is a very different question.

 

But if you try on a 12 in NY, the identical shoe will be an 11 in London.

 

 

 

 

post #999 of 12795
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Originally Posted by dandie View Post



One thing is certain. When a CJ shoe is born it is a certain size (let's call it an X). If it is for sale in the USA, then it is called an X+1. Always.

 

What size in a particular last will fit you is a very different question.

 

But if you try on a 12 in NY, the identical shoe will be an 11 in London.


Why are the RL shoes made by C&J labelled as half a size difference between the UK and US sizing?

 

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post #1000 of 12795
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Originally Posted by Gerry Nelson View Post


Why are the RL shoes made by C&J labelled as half a size difference between the UK and US sizing?

 

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cant help you with RL sorry 

 

post #1001 of 12795
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Originally Posted by Gdot View Post

I have to agree - size down a full size from US to C&J's UK sizes. Unless you run on the wider side, in which case you might get away with only a 1/2 size down.
I was sized in the Royal Arcade store as well - I ended up 1.5 sizes down from my US size. I'm so happy with the fit that I ordered 4 more pairs on the same last after returning to the US. No regrets at all here, for my foot the sizing is spot on.

FWIW, I also size down 1.5 sizes on the 337. I wear a 9.5D in most shoes (Alden Hampton is probably by best fit). I'm a 9D in AE #5 and Barrie. 8E in the 337 is a great fit, not a trace of tightness. I bought an 8E in Carmina's Adelaide that is wearable, but tight, probably would be better with an 8.5.
post #1002 of 12795
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Originally Posted by dandie View Post


But if you try on a 12 in NY, the identical shoe will be an 11 in London.

I know that you are wrong. Send an e-mail to Mr. Huqstable, manager of C&J's customer services. He'll set you straight.
post #1003 of 12795
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Originally Posted by mxgreen View Post


I know that you are wrong. Send an e-mail to Mr. Huqstable, manager of C&J's customer services. He'll set you straight.


Hmmm. it was Huq who told me this when he was managing the Royal Exch store.

 

Not that I'm concerned, being in London I'm fortunate in that don't need to guess what fits, I can try it on.

 

 

post #1004 of 12795
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Originally Posted by dandie View Post



One thing is certain. When a CJ shoe is born it is a certain size (let's call it an X). If it is for sale in the USA, then it is called an X+1. Always.

What size in a particular last will fit you is a very different question.

But if you try on a 12 in NY, the identical shoe will be an 11 in London.




This is my experience as well.
post #1005 of 12795
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Originally Posted by claes500 View Post


Aldwych
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Nice!
Really like the Aldwych
232
The 350 last looks really well propotioned, here Aldwych vs Audley (350 vs 337)



While I really really like the Aldywch, after wearing it twice I have concluded it is too small for me (UK 8.5 but feels like an UK 8 / US 9) so I am reluctantly going to sell it once I work out how to do so on B&S.

 

PM me if interested.

 

 

 

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