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I think it would be a brave man that bought a 348 without trying it on and seeing it on your foot first. 348 can look very elongated and pointed depending on your foot size and the model of shoe. People say it's the 337 equivalent, I own a lot of 337's and the 348 is similar I'll admit but it looks much more pointed in the flesh.

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Data for Sizing C&J 348 Last (especially for Barney’s customers)

 

With hopes that this will help folks in the thread for future reference (especially when buying from Barneys). These are heel to toe measurements. Certainly, folks buying from Barneys are welcome to take measurements before returning them (because you know the sizing is going to be off). Manufacturing allowances should be made for slight variance between measured sizes.

 

From @pendulum

 

308 mm (12 1/8 inches 8UK Hallam purchsed from UK)
 

From @wes bourne

 

308 mm (12 1/8 inches 8UK purchased from UK C&J Westbourne)

 

From @jssdc

 

12.5 inches heel to toe for UK purchased 348s for 9UK.

 

From Fred G. Unn

 

12 3/8 inches heel to toe for UK purchased 348s for 9UK

 

From @Churchill W

 

C&J Drummond UK 8.5E bought from Burlington Arcade store in London:

Length: 12 7/16" or 316mm
Width: 4 3/16" or 107mm
Insole marking: 8.5/5

 

Others from Fred:

 

If you're collating data, here are some measurements from shoes I've previously owned but have now sold (most to people here). I no longer have them so I can't double check measurements, but this is what I put in the listings [note not 348s].

 

Malton - Barney's version, US10D, 12 1/2" x 4 3/8"

Clifford - Barney's version, US10D, 12 3/8" x 4 1/4"

Winchester - C&J for Shipton & Heneage, UK9, 12 1/8" x 4 1/4"

Coniston - BB Black Fleece version, US10D, 12 3/8" x 4 1/4"

 

Dainite soles might increase the size of sole measurement. E.g. from @ Zippyh

 

A size 10US measures 12.75 inches. They're suede George style boots.

A size 10.5US measures 12.875 inches. They're suede Tetburys.

Both are on dainite soles. They also both fit pretty much the same.

 

Mine which are Barneys sold 9D (presumably US) are 12.25 inch heel to toe. Marked 9/4 in the footbed.

 

On internal footbed markings, there’s a slight difference in opinion.

 

Some (most) think that it is the uk size and width, so 9/4 is US 10/narrow (C?); 9/5 would be US 10D.

 

Others think that it is marked for the market. I will update as needed if more data comes in.


Edited by TweedyProf - 7/1/15 at 11:21am
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What do people on this forum think of this??  I never seen it get mentioned?  Do you guys like it?

 

edit: these are Norwich on 348 last.


Edited by jujujoo11 - 6/30/15 at 9:46pm
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What do people on this forum think of this??  I never seen it get mentioned?  Do you guys like it?

 

edit: these are Norwich on 348 last.


I was considering it in black as a winter work office shoe, give me a memory jog as will be in their shop in mid July and I'll see them in the flesh - photos can be quite deceptive for the better or worse.

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It is going to be hot as a mother here today so I pulled out the unlined teigns

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Here's my input on the 348 last measurements.

C&J Drummond UK 8.5E bought from Burlington Arcade store in London:

Length: 12 7/16" or 316mm
Width: 4 3/16" or 107mm
Insole marking: 8.5/5
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Thanks.


Edit - Any idea how a CJ 341 last translates into a Carmina rain last or vice versa?
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Originally Posted by Churchill W View Post

Here's my input on the 348 last measurements.

C&J Drummond UK 8.5E bought from Burlington Arcade store in London:

Length: 12 7/16" or 316mm
Width: 4 3/16" or 107mm
Insole marking: 8.5/5


Thanks, I'll add this!

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Today

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that's the AE randolph with foxing on the heel. AE for RL are much better finished that AE's regular line imo.

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Any idea
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that's the AE randolph with foxing on the heel. AE for RL are much better finished that AE's regular line imo.

Any idea on wow would above translate into a CJ Sidney sizing?
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Any idea
Any idea on wow would above translate into a CJ Sidney sizing?

 

size down one if you have narrow to average feet. half if wide

(this assumes the US D fitting on the RL and Uk E fitting on the sidney)

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Anyone knows whether C&J at Barneys offer sizes in UK or US format? 

 

http://www.barneys.com/crockett-%26-jones-wycombe-wingtip-bluchers-503700691.html?gclid=CLuwppjHvcYCFZKRHwody18GWA

 

Which last is it? Do they run small or big typically? 

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