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post #9526 of 13176

Perhaps the buyer at Barney's ordered them to be made in UK D width, not knowing that E is standard?

 

The facings touch or come close to touching on a lot of C&J shoes (ie Marlows).  I'm convinced it's intentional and part of the styling because if you look at the product shots, they are all touching.

 

@rc121 / @hbarradah, if you look at inside bottom of the shoe, you should see the shoe size and width stamped.  5 = E width.

post #9527 of 13176
4 is definitely narrower than 5, so we can concur 4 is considered UK D width
post #9528 of 13176
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Originally Posted by Allen Dreadmon View Post
 

Perhaps the buyer at Barney's ordered them to be made in UK D width, not knowing that E is standard?

 

The facings touch or come close to touching on a lot of C&J shoes (ie Marlows).  I'm convinced it's intentional and part of the styling because if you look at the product shots, they are all touching.

 

@rc121 / @hbarradah, if you look at inside bottom of the shoe, you should see the shoe size and width stamped.  5 = E width.

 

I tend to agree that C&J designs their shoes/boots this way.  All my C&J boots have facings that come close to touching.  My boots from other makers are not like that at all.

post #9529 of 13176
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I went to one of the Crockett and Jones store and apparently the Snowdon is not bellow tongued any more but when did this happen? I seem to remember it being bellowed a while ago... If its a recent thing then what's the odds of it being bellowed again?


I don't recall the stock Snowdon being made with a full bellow tongue. However, there were a handful of us a few months back that tried to get a group MTO for the Snowdown with that feature and a few additional changes. Since we couldn't get enough interested parties, I tried to just do a single MTO, but was informed that they wouldn't make the below. Apparently our request had to be run by the factory for approval. I may try and get that group MTO together again near the end of the summer if you would be interested.

post #9530 of 13176
Wtf is a commando elite sole?
post #9531 of 13176
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I don't recall the stock Snowdon being made with a full bellow tongue. However, there were a handful of us a few months back that tried to get a group MTO for the Snowdown with that feature and a few additional changes. Since we couldn't get enough interested parties, I tried to just do a single MTO, but was informed that they wouldn't make the below. Apparently our request had to be run by the factory for approval. I may try and get that group MTO together again near the end of the summer if you would be interested.

 

I had always assumed Snowdens had bellows tongues since they've got Veldtschoen construction so it would make sense.  So I just checked the C&J site and sure enough, the verbiage does indicate a bellows tongue.  So go figure...

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Wtf is a commando elite sole?

It's the sole they put on for elite commandos

post #9533 of 13176
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Originally Posted by 68Bullitt View Post


I don't recall the stock Snowdon being made with a full bellow tongue. However, there were a handful of us a few months back that tried to get a group MTO for the Snowdown with that feature and a few additional changes. Since we couldn't get enough interested parties, I tried to just do a single MTO, but was informed that they wouldn't make the below. Apparently our request had to be run by the factory for approval. I may try and get that group MTO together again near the end of the summer if you would be interested.

Damn I missed the train by the looks of it...

The lady at c and j told me of a similar story with the split toe cordovan boots. The factory basically said no presumably because the cordovan will buckle near the seams.

The Shackleton challenge version had a full bellow but I didn't check the boot today to see if it was a partial bellow or no bellow... I should have.

Thanks for the reply smile.gif
post #9534 of 13176
I was told June 20 will be the start of the summer sale at the NY location.
post #9535 of 13176
Do any of you know whether this Peal and Co. shoe is made by C&J and if so, which last it is on? I'm thinking if it's C&J it's the 325 last. Sorry tried to search but didn't come up with anything.

http://www.brooksbrothers.com/Peal-Co.%C2%AE-Leather-Wingtips/MH00442,default,pd.html?dwvar_MH00442_Color=DKBR&contentpos=32&cgid=0522

Thanks in advance.
post #9536 of 13176
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Originally Posted by 02///M3 View Post

Do any of you know whether this Peal and Co. shoe is made by C&J and if so, which last it is on? I'm thinking if it's C&J it's the 325 last. Sorry tried to search but didn't come up with anything.

http://www.brooksbrothers.com/Peal-Co.%C2%AE-Leather-Wingtips/MH00442,default,pd.html?dwvar_MH00442_Color=DKBR&contentpos=32&cgid=0522

Thanks in advance.


Looks like the Pembroke on the 325. Great shoe.

post #9537 of 13176
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Looks like the Pembroke on the 325. Great shoe.

Thanks Patrick R. Any idea whether one would typically go a full size up from UK size on 325 for the BB size? I.e. 10.5UK = 11.5US?
post #9538 of 13176
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Looks like the Pembroke on the 325. Great shoe.

Thanks Patrick R. Any idea whether one would typically go a full size up from UK size on 325 for the BB size? I.e. 10.5UK = 11.5US?

I have three pairs of shoes and one pair of boots on the 325. I go ½ size down from my Brannock measurement. I measure an 11.5D US and I take an 11D US in the 325.
post #9539 of 13176
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I have three pairs of shoes and one pair of boots on the 325. I go ½ size down from my Brannock measurement. I measure an 11.5D US and I take an 11D US in the 325.

Much appreciated.
post #9540 of 13176
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Originally Posted by BootSpell View Post

I had always assumed Snowdens had bellows tongues since they've got Veldtschoen construction so it would make sense.  So I just checked the C&J site and sure enough, the verbiage does indicate a bellows tongue.  So go figure...

For some reason I thought it had a half bellow tongue. Not sure why I'm thinking that, but it's probably because I heard it here at some point.
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