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post #8596 of 12781
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Originally Posted by NickCarraway View Post
 

 

C&J MTO premiums are rather fanciful.  If you can manage the C&J MTO pricepoint I'd suggest Edward Green via Skoaktiebolaget.  Subscribe to the EG and Skoak threads and have a look around.

 

What is it specifically about your needs that has you looking at MTO rather than RTW?

Agreed, Besides at that price your even getting real close to EG MTO prices thru Skoak at least for now. So unless there's an issue with fit I'd recommend getting something from EG wether stock or MTO.


Edited by dddrees - 1/12/15 at 1:53pm
post #8597 of 12781
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Originally Posted by Frank the sheep View Post


CJ MTO is very expensive compare to other brands so i´m not surprised that they gave you that price.

 

 

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Originally Posted by NickCarraway View Post
 

 

C&J MTO premiums are rather fanciful.  If you can manage the C&J MTO pricepoint I'd suggest Edward Green via Skoaktiebolaget.  Subscribe to the EG and Skoak threads and have a look around.

 

What is it specifically about your needs that has you looking at MTO rather than RTW?


Yes I have heard that it can be an expensive mark-up but that seems crazy, especially for just the bench grade. 

 

Thanks for the EG vis Skoak suggestion. I do that already. I am a part of both of those threads. 

 

I was just curious about the C&J MTO because I figured that there would be better prices from other locations. I originally was concerned because of my size. I'm a US 14 extra narrow and they can make them in MTO only from the 341 or 332 lasts. I just checked on their site and even that says prices from £600. I can pay a little more and get EG shoes which I prefer anyway and know are of a higher quality. I was just considering giving C&J a chance. I guess it is their loss.

post #8598 of 12781
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Originally Posted by dddrees View Post
 

Agreed, Besides at that price your even getting real close to EG MTO prices thru Skoak at least for now. So unless there's an issue with fit I'd recommend getting something from EG wether stock or MTO.


Haha! So you're on this thread too? What are the chances? I guess we all can come over and say how we prefer our EG and order from Skoak!!!!

 

We are free advertisement for them! The EG SF Crew!

post #8599 of 12781
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Originally Posted by mw313 View Post
 


Haha! So you're on this thread too? What are the chances? I guess we all can come over and say how we prefer our EG and order from Skoak!!!!

 

We are free advertisement for them! The EG SF Crew!

 

 

I don't visit here that often, however I do think Crockett and Jones make a great looking, well constructed, and very high quality shoe or boot. But when I saw someone mention $1000 for a Crockett and Jones MTO I just thought I would add my two cents. I do have a few C&J shoes and boots and I would have no problem recommending their shoes or boots to other people. However if one where to have a choice between a shoe or boot from Crockett and Jones and one from Edward Green for about the same amount then I would always recommend they get one from Edward Green especially when your talking C&J Handgrade vs Edward Green. Fit would be paramount however. With EG it is my belief that you would get a little bit better leather, you certainly would get better finishing, and I personally like their styles and Lasts better than those from Crockett and Jones.

 

Skoak just happens to have the most friendly EG prices that I know of, also their customer service is top notch as well.


Edited by dddrees - 1/12/15 at 5:57pm
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Originally Posted by dddrees View Post
 

 

 

I don't visit here that often, however I do think Crockett and Jones make a great looking, well constructed, and very high quality shoe or boot. But when I saw someone mention $1000 for a Crockett and Jones MTO I just thought I would add my two cents. I do have a few C&J shoes and boots and I would have no problem recommending their shoes or boots to other people. However if one where to have a choice between a shoe or boot from Crockett and Jones and one from Edward Green for about the same amount then I would always recommend they get one from Edward Green especially when your talking C&J Handgrade vs Edward Green. Fit would be paramount however. With EG it is my belief that you would get a little bit better leather, you certainly would get better finishing, and I personally like their styles and Lasts better than those from Crockett and Jones.

 

Skoak just happens to have the most friendly EG prices that I know of, also their customer service is top notch as well.


I completely agree. I have worn both before and greatly prefer EG for all of the same reasons. I think C&J are a great shoe brand, especially for the price of RTW. It just seems crazy to charge such a premium for the MTO shoes, where they now get closer in price to brands that are substantially better made.

 

I agree about Skoak as well. They are great people there and have great prices too. 

post #8601 of 12781

Hi everyone,

 

I have a quick sizing question.  I'm looking to purchase a pair of Islay boots.   I wear a 9.5D in Alden Indy boots, was wondering if I should order a 8.5 or 9UK in the Islay?

 

Thanks

post #8602 of 12781
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Originally Posted by woodchuck312 View Post

Hi everyone,

I have a quick sizing question.  I'm looking to purchase a pair of Islay boots.   I wear a 9.5D in Alden Indy boots, was wondering if I should order a 8.5 or 9UK in the Islay?

Thanks

FWIW, I'm a comfortable 8D in Alden for the barrie and trubalance lasts and my Islays are a 7UK.
post #8603 of 12781
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Originally Posted by woodchuck312 View Post

Hi everyone,

I have a quick sizing question.  I'm looking to purchase a pair of Islay boots.   I wear a 9.5D in Alden Indy boots, was wondering if I should order a 8.5 or 9UK in the Islay?

Thanks

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Originally Posted by lagsun View Post

FWIW, I'm a comfortable 8D in Alden for the barrie and trubalance lasts and my Islays are a 7UK.

I went down one full size from my US Barrie size down to UK Crockett and jones size.
post #8604 of 12781
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Originally Posted by mw313 View Post



I went down one full size from my US Barrie size down to UK Crockett and jones size.


Thanks guys, just ordered the Islay's from Robert Old this afternoon in a 8.5UK.   They are on backorder so i'm not expecting them anytime soon but i'll post some pics once they arrive.

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X-Post from the C&J MTO Central Thread --- Idea is for a Snowdon with captoe and possible shearling lining.  NEXT WINTER IS COMING, hey, you are going to need want more BOOTS.  Oiled teak leather as per chickenfark's Connistons has been discussed, with the other option begin the usual waxed brown hide that C&J states is "waterproof".  

 

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Emailed C&J for some info on pricing (with shearling/without shearling/partial shearling as below), width, lead times, minimum participants, etc…  Will advise when I hear back.

 

So another option between non-shearling and full shearling could be a "shearling collar" on this version discussed a while back:

 

Crockett-and-Jones-The-Turner-Twins-The-Boots.jpg

 

More info on the development of this particular makeup here:  http://www.crockettandjones.com/news/index/crockett-and-jones-supports-the-turner-twins

 

Of course, the version we are going for would have the captoe as in this pic:

 

 

8.jpg 

 
Note - The top boot has 5 speed hooks and is evidently taller than the bottom version.  It looks like the standard Snowdon has 5 speed hooks -- So imaging the bottom boot but in another leather would not be entirely accurate.  
post #8606 of 12781

Not sure if this is cool to ask this question on this thread but here gies,

 

I'm looking to purchase a pair of english made oxfords in black. I am debatimng between C&J Connaught and Church's Consul. C&J are cheaper price point and from what I hear are a bit higher quality but that I'm not sure about. What are people's thoughts or suggestions for oxfords in this market? Ordring online? Sorry for all the questions.

 

Thanks a lot from a guy trying to evolve his style!

post #8607 of 12781
The. Dorset is very cheap right now. You can find it at upper shoes on sale.
post #8608 of 12781
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Originally Posted by Canhapa View Post

Not sure if this is cool to ask this question on this thread but here gies,

I'm looking to purchase a pair of english made oxfords in black. I am debatimng between C&J Connaught and Church's Consul. C&J are cheaper price point and from what I hear are a bit higher quality but that I'm not sure about. What are people's thoughts or suggestions for oxfords in this market? Ordring online? Sorry for all the questions.

Thanks a lot from a guy trying to evolve his style!

Pull the trigger, you won't be disappointed nod[1].gif
post #8609 of 12781
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Originally Posted by Canhapa View Post
 

Not sure if this is cool to ask this question on this thread but here gies,

 

I'm looking to purchase a pair of english made oxfords in black. I am debatimng between C&J Connaught and Church's Consul. C&J are cheaper price point and from what I hear are a bit higher quality but that I'm not sure about. What are people's thoughts or suggestions for oxfords in this market? Ordring online? Sorry for all the questions.

 

Thanks a lot from a guy trying to evolve his style!

 

This is not the time to try to be "cheap" and order online.

 

You are inexperienced with these brands, go to a C&J or Church's store, try them on, and buy them there.

 

 

Trying to guess your size at the start is likely to end up costing you more in the long run...and what's more, it's nice to be able to see the range of shoes in store.

post #8610 of 12781
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Originally Posted by Mifune View Post

This is not the time to try to be "cheap" and order online.

You are inexperienced with these brands, go to a C&J or Church's store, try them on, and buy them there.


Trying to guess your size at the start is likely to end up costing you more in the long run...and what's more, it's nice to be able to see the range of shoes in store.

I agree. For your fist time you should visit the store to try them on and get a feel for the styles and leathers available. You can always take your time to decide after and can order over the phone if you are not nearby. You could even ask them to send you a pair by mail to try on if you are too far away. They sent me a pair as a starting point because I was too lazy to drive from philly to NYC and wanted to try them on for an extended period of time in my house. That helped me decide much easier. It may be a bit more expensive for the first pair but then you can look for the deals after you know what you need and have worked in your first pair.

Trust me. This is coming from the guy with the toughest to fit foot around. Only a few brands even attempt to make shoes for me on special orders because they are so off scale from the norm.

It will save you a lot of time, money, and frustration to deal with them directly in person or at least by phone and using a trial pair.
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