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Originally Posted by Farhad19620 View Post

The weather is warming up here but I still enjoy wearing boots! does anyone else wear boots in summer?


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Necro bumping this from a while ago. Love this. What model is it? I didn't know that C&J did a plain toe derby boot in grain leather for men.

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@Cleav
I would appreciate your advice about rounding off my recently acquired C&J collection.  Advice from everyone else is most welcome too, of course.  Thank you!

BK

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Background
I work in the ICT industry, about as far away from CBD as white collar work permits.  However, I'm trying to find my way back home to classic menswear from the "ICT wilderness".  I started my working life as an army officer, where military/semi-formal dress ruled.  So, my civilian working life began with bespoke civilian lounge suits in the wardrobe but I gradually lost my way, as the ICT industry became progressively more casual over the past two decades.  Joining SF recently was a last ditch effort on my part to arrest my sartorial decline.

Clothing  Plan
Being over 50 now, my plan is to wear mainly odd jacket ensembles in solid colours, perhaps with a bit of texture too.  However, I'm not big on the bold patterns that are popular nowadays.  Fabrics preferred are medium weight wool blends/worsteds/linens for summer/tropics and heavy weight wool blends/worstead/cashmere/tweed for winter/three season.  My modest new lounge suit collection will be limited to basic solids and PoW checks in various cuts.   

C&J Footwear Plan
Given the above, I favour low cut ankle boots, specifically Chukka/Desert boots as they can pull double duty either casual/country and or semi-formal/town.  If I was more CBD, then I would go for Chelsea boots rather than Chukka, as slightly more formal.  Presently, my Oxfords are all semi brogue (both blind and medallion style).  Again, so they can pull double duty (casual/country and semi-formal/town) at a stretch.

My C&J Collection 
Below is a picture of my C&J collection today, in the shape of an upside down triangle.  Arranged from the most frequently worn footwear in the top row  to the least frequently worn in the bottom row.  From the more formal on the left to the least formal on the right.  I would appreciate you advice to fill in the gaps, as I notice from your pictures that my C&J preferences are similar to your own.  Obviously, making appropriate allowances for different locations and working environments.  

Anyway, Cleav what say you mate?  Again, thanks.
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Top Row:  [1C]  348 Milton boots in ocean blue suede?  [1E] 359 Hartland boots in ocean blue suede or special order in antique dark brown?

Middle Row:  [2B]  348 Westbourn in chestnut brown or special order in antique dark brown?  [2D] 363 Barrington 2 special order in antique dark brown.
Bottom Row: [3A] Plain capped Oxfords in black or whole cuts for semi-formal/DJ use?  [3B]  341 Sydney in snuff suede?  [3C]  Driving slippers in suede?

Note: I do have other non-C&J footwear that covers off the rugged country footwear side, i.e. black and dark brown leather chukka boots with commando soles) and black leather Chelsea boots with double leather soles.  

Mate, honoured to be asked, many thanks. Many on here and other threads very qualified to chip in too, more the merrier? I'd also consider posting same question to Noodles Good Natured Advice Thread, great seat of learning that!

IMHO etc etc I may consider these...

A brogue (Clifford), unlined Chukka, Double monk (Lowdnes?), single monk (Monkton?) etc etc instead of a driving shoe (which I have a couple pair of Todds I might consider Boston? Hallam or of course Lonsdale. Weymouth and Courtenay. No black suede there either, could go Tetbury/Merton? I could be here all day mate. I'll think on....

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Has anyone subjected the waxed calf Northcote to inclement weather? If yes, how'd things turn out? That boot has grown on me over the last number of months .....
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

Has anyone subjected the waxed calf Northcote to inclement weather? If yes, how'd things turn out? That boot has grown on me over the last number of months .....
A very good question - or at least one I've been meaning to ask as well! It's a beautiful boot yet I've wondered if it's "too pretty" to use for its intended purpose. (I know, I know, they're boots, use them...)
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Mate, honoured to be asked, many thanks. Many on here and other threads very qualified to chip in too, more the merrier? I'd also consider posting same question to Noodles Good Natured Advice Thread, great seat of learning that!

IMHO etc etc I may consider these...

A brogue (Clifford), unlined Chukka, Double monk (Lowdnes?), single monk (Monkton?) etc etc instead of a driving shoe (which I have a couple pair of Todds I might consider Boston? Hallam or of course Lonsdale. Weymouth and Courtenay. No black suede there either, could go Tetbury/Merton? I could be here all day mate. I'll think on....
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@Cleav 

 

Thanks man.  I appreciate you taking the time to reply in detail and repost some of your own pictures.  

 

Well you didn't disappoint me and my instinct about your preferences was right on.  Our C&J preferences are indeed very similar.  Albeit, with the notable exception of the monks, which is a category of footwear that is still foreign to me.  But I'm warming s-l-o-w-l-y to them, monks.  Surprisingly, it appears that I (a humble antipodean from down under) may be even more conservative than your sir, a quintessential Englishman.  Crikey!

 

When reviewing your C&J shoe pictures above, I must confess that I smiled upon recognising shoes that have been under active consideration on my own short list, e.g. 337 Clifords and 348 Westborunes in browns etc.  In the case of the 348 Westbourne, I see you have them in two shades of brown above.  Could it be that you have a pair of the current standard model in chestnut brown and also have them in antique dark brown too -- via special order?  If so, then that's exactly what I've been thinking about doing too.

 

Anyway, thanks again. Armed with your suggestions, I will update my C&J game plan.

 

 

Edit: Typos corrected.


Edited by BespokeKiwi - 9/24/14 at 6:16pm
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@BespokeKiwi

 

In response to the questions you posed regarding your collection.

 

1. You have enough chukkas. You need to diversify in boots. Several options you may want to consider that can serve as both city/country boots - Harlech, Northcote and Chelsea. You could also opt for a very dressy city boot the Somerville. If you are hell-bent on ordering more chukkas...I would opt for an MTO handgrade antique brown Tetbury with a medallion on the toe.

 

2. Oxfords - you could use a pair in suede - perhaps a Hallam in Espresso Suede which is extremely CBD...or something a little lighter and still very dressy such as a Westfield in Tobacco suede.

 

3. I would opt for a cap-toe oxford over a whole-cut. I think they are more versatile...and this is my opinion. C&J has numerous options here, the Connaught I believe being the most traditional in black on the 236 last...if you are looking for something more modern there are several others on various lasts such as the Belgrave on the 337 (still pretty traditional), the Hallam in black on the 348 or the Lonsdale in black on the 363...both of these being more modern. If you want a wholecut you have the Alex on the 348 or the Weymouth (handgrade) on the 337...there is also the Wembley which is a plainfront oxford on the 360.

 

4. My favorite of the C&J Loafers is the Teign - an unlined loafer in dark brown suede. I highly recommend this one and I know many other C&J afficionados will vouch for this model.

 

5. You could use a full brogue or semi-brogue dress shoe...i.e., the Clifford....this is one I would consider doing as an MTO and maybe in a hangrade leather option.

 

6. You need at least one monkstrap. I would recommend the Savile (handgrade) as the best CBD option. The monkton in chestnut is also very nice. Lowndes is their best double monk option if you prefer double monk to single monk.

 

7. You need at least one pair of truly country shoes...maybe the Islay or the Skye/Skye2...or the pembroke...or even the Marlow made by C&J for Ralph Lauren...

 

8. You need something other than plain calf....such as a grain leather shoe...good for rain/snow/fall/winter....this could be an oxford MTO...the Monkton and Lowndes both are offered in grain leather with dainite rubber soles for the Autumn/Winter seasons too....

 

just some general observations...you obv don't need all of these shoes...but i hope my suggestions open you up to many of the great options C&J offers

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@PCK1 

- Thanks for your detailed suggestions above, which I appreciate.  

- Like @Cleav, I think you've also got the measure of me.  Once again, your advice identified many options that I had been actively considering too.  Plus, some interesting new ones that I had not previously considered.  You've given me much to think about.  

See my responses below, arranged using your earlier numbering scheme.

Thanks for shaking me out of my footwear "comfort zone".  Yes sir, a good kick in the butt from your foot -- appropriately glad in a C&J Snowden or Islay boot, no less -- is just what I needed. 

 

BK

 

 

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1.  Boots.  As a former military man, I'm no stranger to calf boots.  However, I've never worn them in civilian life, except for warm weather/tropical trekking.  Where my old military jungle boots continue to serve me well.  If I lived in a very cold urban or high country environment, then I definitely would invest in C&J calf boots, along the lines you suggest.  Although its not clear in my earlier collection photo, I already own a pair of 348 Tetbury in antique dark brown (not black), top left refers.  So, for the time being, I will actively consider your Chelsea and Cleav's 348 Tetbury in black suede suggestions.   However, I note your point about already having enough Chukkas.  Got it.

 

2.  Oxfords.  Agreed.

 

3.  Semi-formal Dress/DJ Shoe.  Agreed.  Presently, I prefer a plain capped toe Oxford over whole cut for my dressiest black shoes, despite the later being considered more formal.  The plain capped toe Oxford can pull double duty as CBD and semi-formal DJ shoe, at a stretch.

 

4. Loafers.  Spending as much time as I do in tropical South East Asia, loafers are an obvious choice.  (Note to self, you need more than one pair).  Obviously, they complement summer/tropical ensembles well and are practical for the Asian cultural norm of removing ones shoes indoors.  Unlined 341 Teign is a new option for me and I will take it seriously given your strong recommendation.  I see its an unlined version of the 341 Sydney, which is already on my short list.  So, right on, I'm warm to this option already.    

 

5. Full Brogue.  Agreed.  337 Clifford or 348 Gilford it is, especially as I prefer medallions over blinds.

 

6.  Monks.  Crikey, it's like "the charge of the monk (light) brigade" around here at SF.  OK, got it.  So, I expect to go for single strap 348 Monkton or similar, as a monk newbie.  Then, as I gradually warm to monks -- one strap at a time -- I will try two straps.  Sounds like BDSM?

 

7.  Country Shoes.  Agreed.  Will try to channel younger self's love for military style calf boots.  365 Islay here I come.  Also, please recall that I do have non C&J brand country shoes already.  In the form of third party Australian brand (Trenery/Country Road) "Chukkas" (similar to C&J Brecons) in black and dark brown calf leather with double leather soles, which I've had Vibram commando tread applied to.  Obviously, I'm a self confessed Chukka addict, "with enough Chukkas" already.

 

8.  More Grain/Country Shoes.  Agreed.  Will consider 325 Pembroke in scotch grain leather or similar Oxford MTO.

 

Thanks!

 

 

Edit: Typos corrected.


Edited by BespokeKiwi - 9/26/14 at 1:25am
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Has anyone from the U.S. ordered from Pediwear? And did you have to pay duty/tax upon delivery? If so, how does that work? Did you get a notice to pick up your parcel at USPS and then have to pay the charge there? Or something similar? Much appreciated.
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Also, how is duty calculated? In other words, for a $500 USD shoe, what should I expect to pay approximately?
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@BespokeKiwi

 

Just a note on the Tetbury....your Tetbury is in the Dark Brown Waxed Calf which is a very dark brown and a very thick heavy leather.

 

My recommendation for a handgrade antiqued brown MTO would give you a very different looking boot...the antiqued brown is a much lighter brown that is burnished to give it some patina/antiquing. 

 

Nonetheless, you should check out the other boot options.

 

The Harlech is a styleforum favorite in dark brown cordovan....the Northcote comes in a brown calf with leather sole and a dark brown waxed calf with dainite sole...and the Somerville is a classic Balmoral boot in black calf with a black suede shaft....

 

the C&J MTO program is pretty good and you can make some design modifications...I have used it a few times...all with good results. 

 

My Monktons in burnished chestnut are one of my oldest and favorite pair of C&J...I think once you have a pair you will be converted.

 

Good luck in your endeavor!

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Originally Posted by PCK1 View Post
 

@BespokeKiwi

 

Just a note on the Tetbury....your Tetbury is in the Dark Brown Waxed Calf which is a very dark brown and a very thick heavy leather.

 

My recommendation for a handgrade antiqued brown MTO would give you a very different looking boot...the antiqued brown is a much lighter brown that is burnished to give it some patina/antiquing. 

 

Nonetheless, you should check out the other boot options.

 

The Harlech is a styleforum favorite in dark brown cordovan....the Northcote comes in a brown calf with leather sole and a dark brown waxed calf with dainite sole...and the Somerville is a classic Balmoral boot in black calf with a black suede shaft....

 

the C&J MTO program is pretty good and you can make some design modifications...I have used it a few times...all with good results. 

 

My Monktons in burnished chestnut are one of my oldest and favorite pair of C&J...I think once you have a pair you will be converted.

 

Good luck in your endeavor!

 

@PCK1

 

- Yes, you're quite right about my dark brown Tetbury being waxed calf not antique.  Duh!  A C&J newbie mistake on my part.  

- Thanks for the Tetbury handgrade antique brown MTO suggestion, I will consider it.  If I do act on your suggestion, then it will be the high water mark and be "piece de resistance" on my present Chukka boot addiction.  :embar:

- Thanks for the Harlech and Northcote boot suggestions.  However, my Scottish ancestry has been stirred and either the Islay or Skye are calling me.

- I will add your favourite burnished chestnut -- along with dark brown suede -- to consider for my Monktons.

- I will keep you posted with my progress in the months to come.

- Again, thanks for taking the time to make suggestions based on long experience, which I appreciate.

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Today seemed like a good fall day for the Islay.

 

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Has anyone from the U.S. ordered from Pediwear? And did you have to pay duty/tax upon delivery? If so, how does that work? Did you get a notice to pick up your parcel at USPS and then have to pay the charge there? Or something similar? Much appreciated.

I have purchased there a few times. They use the US postal system for final delivery. I have never been hit with duties.
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I have purchased there a few times. They use the US postal system for final delivery. I have never been hit with duties.
So you have only had to pay the quoted price? Nothing in addition? VAT would not be included I presume. Stupid question I guess but I am skeptical, as I have not ordered from overseas before. Thanks for your information.
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

I have purchased there a few times. They use the US postal system for final delivery. I have never been hit with duties.
So you have only had to pay the quoted price? Nothing in addition? VAT would not be included I presume. Stupid question I guess but I am skeptical, as I have not ordered from overseas before. Thanks for your information.

VAT is subtracted at checkout (and the discounted price is what I paid). Shipping for C&J's is free. You might have a foreign transaction fee from your Credit Card ($20 or so).
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