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Originally Posted by Nikola View Post
 

I'm about to make a order on Tan Scotch grain country boots as they don't have them in Dark Brown Country, meaning I would have to go with the MTO process to get them in Dark Brown, which is expensive and lasts too long.

The thing is, C&J store manager told me they have a "shoe doctor" in their store and that he can darken them to almost Beechnut color !?

I was wondering, what is a "shoe doctor" in the first place, and what's he going to do with the boots to darken them that much and will that be a permanent solution?

Is that something safe? I would be paying the full price for these boots, so I wouldn't like to give them a green light and receive a messed up brand new shoes ..

 

There are some boots at Purdey that look like a Coniston boot in dark brown. 

 

http://www.purdey.com/clothing-accessories/mens-grain-leather-boot---dainite-sole-boot8.aspx

post #7487 of 12785
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Originally Posted by Tenance View Post
 

There are some boots at Purdey that look like a Coniston boot in dark brown. 

 

http://www.purdey.com/clothing-accessories/mens-grain-leather-boot---dainite-sole-boot8.aspx


They sure look handsome. What brand is that? The price is higher than Coniston, are they worth the value?

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They sure look handsome. What brand is that? The price is higher than Coniston, are they worth the value?

I think they are made for Purdey by Crockett & Jones, but i'm not sure.  I had them bookmarked from the last time this conversation happened.  Maybe another forum member has more information.  Or you could email them and ask who the maker is.  To me they look exactly like my conistons, only a different colour.

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I think they are made for Purdey by Crockett & Jones, but i'm not sure.  I had them bookmarked from the last time this conversation happened.  Maybe another forum member has more information.  Or you could email them and ask who the maker is.  To me they look exactly like my conistons, only a different colour.


Thank You Tenance, I really appreciate your assistance.

That color is just the one I am looking for. I have sent them e-mail regarding the manufacturer, and If the Crockett Jones makes them, I will order them.

I am not sure if they are same boots, as the toe box area appears to be boxier in the one you linked me + they are 50 GBP more expensive than CJ. 

Take a look. Could be a angle or slotted tree thing though ..

 

 



post #7490 of 12785
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They sure look handsome. What brand is that? The price is higher than Coniston, are they worth the value?

They had a pair during the winter that looked to me like Islay's. I asked the same thing in the thread and got some good info - it seemed that they were indeed made by Crockett but on a slightly different last and with a different (some said less substantial) sole. Search back in the thread for Razl + Purdey and you'll find more info. I suspect this boot is in the same/similar situation.
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They appear to be cloned Conistons apart from the toe box area which might be deceptive due to a angle shot.

It would actually be pretty cool to me that C&J made the altered last only for Purdey & Sons .. Meaning they would be a "limited edition" .. That just brings more heat for me!

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They appear to be cloned Conistons apart from the toe box area which might be deceptive due to a angle shot.


It would actually be pretty cool to me that C&J made the altered last only for Purdey & Sons .. Meaning they would be a "limited edition" .. That just brings more heat for me!

They are C&J but Purdey won't admit it, possibly for legal reasons? I believe they are made on the same last as the Coniston but the toebox does indeed look different. I remember hearing that the Dainite sole was thinner on these than the standard Coniston, and that the leather was not as nice(?).
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They only wrote "Hand crafted for Purdey in Northampton, England."

Hope they will reply quickly with the manufacturer name to me. I don't see why would they hide such a thing? As a customer I would like to know what brand I am buying for $800+ ..

But is the thinner Dainite sole and not as nice leather really something CJ would do?

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Quote: I am jealous these are exactly what I am looking for please dont mention your size :D

 

Originally Posted by Mutombo View Post

Crockett and Jones Skye 2 in brown shell cordovan arrived on Thursday. Love these boots, first pair of C&J.



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Just received the e-mail from Purdey & Sons Ltd

Dear Mr ###
I hope you are well.
It is Company policy not to disclose our suppliers details. Postage to Germany would be free of charge. 
Regards

Jonathan Elsworth



Well, that's just stupid, If I may say so. Why would someone hide such a info and expect you to spend $800 on a shoes?

I understand they must be standing behind their company credibility, however, up until now, all resellers clearly and proudly mentioned the shoe manufacturers who produced the shoes for them, especially if those names are like C&J or Edward Green.

Whatever ....................................................................
 

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I understand they must be standing behind their company credibility, however, up until now, all resellers clearly and proudly mentioned the shoe manufacturers who produced the shoes for them, especially if those names are like C&J or Edward Green.


Whatever ....................................................................

 

In my experience they usually claim they are made in house (Cleverley rtw for example, but the ex manager confirmed it to me recently)
post #7497 of 12785

^^^right, like BB saying their shoes are made by Peal and Co when it's obviously C&J. In the case above isn't it obvious that the Purdey's are C&J?  I must be missing something.

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Originally Posted by Nikola View Post

Just received the e-mail from Purdey & Sons Ltd


Dear Mr ###

I hope you are well.
It is Company policy not to disclose our suppliers details. Postage to Germany would be free of charge. 
Regards
Jonathan Elsworth




Well, that's just stupid, If I may say so. Why would someone hide such a info and expect you to spend $800 on a shoes?


I understand they must be standing behind their company credibility, however, up until now, all resellers clearly and proudly mentioned the shoe manufacturers who produced the shoes for them, especially if those names are like C&J or Edward Green.


Whatever ....................................................................

 

I notice they keep it vague. Alot of retailers say something general like "made in Northampton England" or "Made in Northampton by a well-established company".
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They are definitely C&J, but it is strange that they won't admit it.
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