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Originally Posted by Churchill W View Post

Experience with Somerville sizing? I am trying to see if I can fit into a marked US 8.5D.

I am a Brannock 9D, Marlow wingtips/pennies US 8.5D, and Onslow (325 Last) UK 8E which is slightly long.

@Scurvyfreedman: I know you're a US 9D in the Somervilles, but Brannock and Hampton last 8.5D and UK 7.5 in the 348 last, which seems a bit weird to me.

@Gyasih @Namor @DpprDr

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I am a half size larger in Somervilles than 348 last. I am not a full US11, but I wear 9.5EUK in 348 and 11US in Somerville.

I'm a US 7. My Somervilles are UK 6E (and I wear the same size in all of my C&J); however, C&J does run a little long for me though.
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CJ for BB/peal
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post #7443 of 12792
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Originally Posted by gyasih View Post

I am a half size larger in Somervilles than 348 last. I am not a full US11, but I wear 9.5EUK in 348 and 11US in Somerville.
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Originally Posted by DpprDr View Post


I'm a US 7. My Somervilles are UK 6E (and I wear the same size in all of my C&J); however, C&J does run a little long for me though.

Thanks guys!
post #7444 of 12792
Can anyone provide advice with resoling double soles shoes? My two pairs of Cordovan RL x C&J will need repairing shortly.

When they are resoled, should the cobbler replace both layers of sole, or just replace the outer layer? I'm concerned if I take it to a local cobbler that doesn't know what they are doing, they will take off both layers and replace with a single sole.

Obviously I could take them to C&J but the price difference is £150 vs £50 and my preference (ideally) would be the cheaper option.
post #7445 of 12792

Just send them to a C&J factory for a complete refurbishment. This is not the time to be cheap.

post #7446 of 12792
Let's be clear, I'm not being cheap.

I have sent shoes to the C&J factory before and was not particularly impressed with the results. After a couple of wears, the new sole is indiscernible from a JR sole my local cobbler could fit for a third of the price. One time, they had to be sent back to the factory again after 2 weeks developing a fault on the sole. 6 weeks waiting each time .
post #7447 of 12792
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Originally Posted by inimitable View Post

Let's be clear, I'm not being cheap.

I have sent shoes to the C&J factory before and was not particularly impressed with the results. After a couple of wears, the new sole is indiscernible from a JR sole my local cobbler could fit for a third of the price. One time, they had to be sent back to the factory again after 2 weeks developing a fault on the sole. 6 weeks waiting each time .

I think you have your answer then. If you have a local cobbler, and you know he can do the job, take it to him. I would guess that a resole job with a double leather sole is a very common request.
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Then I think you just might have answered yourself ..

I have seen some phenomenal work from Northampton factories where I couldn't recognize the before/after shoes. So, I am always for a option to chew a 100 GBP more and have a piece of mind knowing they will be refurbished by professionals on the same last they were manufactured .. But with your experience I just don't understand what advice do you expect to get here?

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Originally Posted by inimitable View Post

Can anyone provide advice with resoling double soles shoes? My two pairs of Cordovan RL x C&J will need repairing shortly.

When they are resoled, should the cobbler replace both layers of sole, or just replace the outer layer? I'm concerned if I take it to a local cobbler that doesn't know what they are doing, they will take off both layers and replace with a single sole.

Obviously I could take them to C&J but the price difference is £150 vs £50 and my preference (ideally) would be the cheaper option.

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Originally Posted by Nikola View Post

Then I think you just might have answered yourself ..


I have seen some phenomenal work from Northampton factories where I couldn't recognize the before/after shoes. So, I am always for a option to chew a 100 GBP more and have a piece of mind knowing they will be refurbished by professionals on the same last they were manufactured .. But with your experience I just don't understand what advice do you expect to get here?

My question was regarding the actual process of resoling double sole shoes (if I should need to direct my cobbler for instance). Not to worry, I will ask elsewhere.
post #7450 of 12792
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Originally Posted by inimitable View Post

Can anyone provide advice with resoling double soles shoes? My two pairs of Cordovan RL x C&J will need repairing shortly.

When they are resoled, should the cobbler replace both layers of sole, or just replace the outer layer? I'm concerned if I take it to a local cobbler that doesn't know what they are doing, they will take off both layers and replace with a single sole.

Obviously I could take them to C&J but the price difference is £150 vs £50 and my preference (ideally) would be the cheaper option.

A double leather sole is a/k/a a single leather sole plus a midsole. My understanding is that the midsole will only be replaced if it is worn down. While I would certainly address this subject with your cobbler, someone like BNelson in NYC knows what to do without the matter being discussed.

If a cobbler removed the midsole and outer sole and merely replaced it with an outer sole (without being instructed to do that), that would indeed be odd as he would be changing the nature of the shoe - converting the shoe from double to single.
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Originally Posted by inimitable View Post


My question was regarding the actual process of resoling double sole shoes (if I should need to direct my cobbler for instance). Not to worry, I will ask elsewhere.

Since you're in the UK, you should consider having them resoled by The Shoe Healer.

http://www.shoehealer.co.uk/repairs
post #7452 of 12792
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

A double leather sole is a/k/a a single leather sole plus a midsole. My understanding is that the midsole will only be replaced if it is worn down. While I would certainly address this subject with your cobbler, someone like BNelson in NYC knows what to do without the matter being discussed.

If a cobbler removed the midsole and outer sole and merely replaced it with an outer sole (without being instructed to do that), that would indeed be odd as he would be changing the nature of the shoe - converting the shoe from double to single.

Thank you for a concise and helpful answer
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

A double leather sole is a/k/a a single leather sole plus a midsole. My understanding is that the midsole will only be replaced if it is worn down. While I would certainly address this subject with your cobbler, someone like BNelson in NYC knows what to do without the matter being discussed.

If a cobbler removed the midsole and outer sole and merely replaced it with an outer sole (without being instructed to do that), that would indeed be odd as he would be changing the nature of the shoe - converting the shoe from double to single.

Thank you for a concise and helpful answer

You are welcome. Good luck. smile.gif
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