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Originally Posted by jeffd View Post

I don't think these footbed markings are strictly UK sizes.  My Sedgemoors arrived today from Barneys, and they have the US size marked on the footbed, lining, and the box.  My Grasmeres, which I bought directly from C&J New York, have the UK size on all those places.  

Oh well. I have 3 other pairs of 348 lasted shoes that all fit great. I guess I'm striking out with the Barneys Tetbury. Back it goes tomorrow.

I don't suppose you have any other 335 lasted shoes to compare your Sedgemoors to, do you? Maybe a Skye or Chelsea 5? Just curious how the Barneys version compares size wise to others on that last.
post #7142 of 13221
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No, I didn't actually. What is this 'namecheck' you speak of? Man, I must be getting old. Is there some flag that tells me when that happens?

Someone tried to qualify their comment by saying 'DpprDr' would agree. They didn't link you in so you didn't see it. Their argument was that C & J is over priced and lacks quality. The fact that their posts are subjective and a mass of contradictions...

I'll try and dig out the thread. I'd be interested if you agree with their assumption that you would. If you know what I mean.

In looking for the thread I just seen you on there!

http://www.styleforum.net/t/394118/crockett-jones-whats-the-big-deal

hope you're well friend.

Best,

Cleav
post #7143 of 13221
If it's a 4 that could mean UK narrow width? I can't really fit into 348 comfortable but the ludlow boot they had on sale a while ago I couldn't even get my foot in. I suspect a lot of US retailers go half size down and one width down (11d US would be 10.5d UK instead of 10E UK) on some shoes as that they want sleeker
post #7144 of 13221
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Originally Posted by stevent View Post

I suspect a lot of US retailers go half size down and one width down (11d US would be 10.5d UK instead of 10E UK) on some shoes as that they want sleeker
That's exactly what this feels like, a US 10D that's really a UK 9.5D. It's longer and more narrow than my UK 9Es on the same last. The US 9.5D is only a touch longer, but much more narrow so maybe it's a UK 9D and the length is just variance, or due to comparing Dainite vs leather or something.
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There is really a lot of confusion about the conversion, hope that C&J itself could ever provide a clarification.

So for your experience D widht it's essentially Uk D? like Edward Green sizing
post #7146 of 13221
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Originally Posted by DpprDr View Post

No, I didn't actually. What is this 'namecheck' you speak of? Man, I must be getting old. Is there some flag that tells me when that happens?

Doc, I do beg you're pardon? I mistook you for another D. Apologies.
post #7147 of 13221
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There is really a lot of confusion about the conversion, hope that C&J itself could ever provide a clarification.

So for your experience D widht it's essentially Uk D? like Edward Green sizing

I think C&J posted here saying the Ralph Lauren shoes were one down but that doesn't really apply to all US retailer shoes. Ben Silver listed US E width on a bunch of their sale shoes so I wonder if the were UK E or F. But it's a crapshoot as I've definitely got C&Js from Barneys that were UK E width before too so not sure how that works. Maybe @zippyh or someone with an incredible collection can chime in?

And D width would be like EG 10/ 10.5 D (and E would be EG 10 / 10.5 E).
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Originally Posted by alexSF View Post

There is really a lot of confusion about the conversion, hope that C&J itself could ever provide a clarification.

So for your experience D widht it's essentially Uk D? like Edward Green sizing

I really am not sure. I don't know if it's limited to this model or not. My other Barneys C&Js fit fine. The Clifford is maybe a bit long, but I don't have any other 337 last shoes to compare it to. This was just obvious to me because I have 3 other 348 lasted shoes so I was familiar with how they fit. I'm curious if others have gotten their Tetburys yet and what they think. (FYI, I didn't get a shipping notification for the second pair, they just arrived)
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Originally Posted by Shouldaville View Post
 

Speaking of another order...I'll add to the blue Coniston praise (especially for about $400). With my Lindrick sizing and others saying they sized down, I was a little concerned about fit ordering my tts 10D US, but it is perfect.

 

I went with half size down and they fit perfect. I guess every foot is different and it also depends on what type of socks you're wearing. I love my blue conistons too! I'm so glad I got them instead of the tetburys. Just wondering though, what color belt are you wearing with those? I don't know if I should go with a dark brown belt or a lighter chestnut/walnut colored belt.

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Originally Posted by SW1Y View Post
 

 

I don't know if you still need them and I'm sorry for the iPhone quality but here are some pictures

 

Newquay (Click to show)

 

 

Both shots were taken inside, first pictures has some natural lighting

 

Thank you! :) 

post #7151 of 13221
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Originally Posted by Fred G. Unn View Post


Oh well. I have 3 other pairs of 348 lasted shoes that all fit great. I guess I'm striking out with the Barneys Tetbury. Back it goes tomorrow.

I don't suppose you have any other 335 lasted shoes to compare your Sedgemoors to, do you? Maybe a Skye or Chelsea 5? Just curious how the Barneys version compares size wise to others on that last.

 

Sorry, no other 335's to compare. 

 

 

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Does anyone here have experience withe the Sedgemoor Suede Oxford model? I am looking for a comfortable dog walker. Something more substantive than the typical RL bucks I currently have that flex too much side to side. I also thought the Sedgemoor might have cork beds as they appear Goodyear welted. Thanks all .. Great forum!

 

Yes, they're welted, and I guess I would call them substantial, as far as bucks go.  I can't say that I notice any particular amount of flex, but I've done little more than walk around the room in them at this point.  

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Someone tried to qualify their comment by saying 'DpprDr' would agree. They didn't link you in so you didn't see it. Their argument was that C & J is over priced and lacks quality. The fact that their posts are subjective and a mass of contradictions...

I'll try and dig out the thread. I'd be interested if you agree with their assumption that you would. If you know what I mean.

In looking for the thread I just seen you on there!

http://www.styleforum.net/t/394118/crockett-jones-whats-the-big-deal

hope you're well friend.

Best,

Cleav[/quote]

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Originally Posted by Cleav View Post

Doc, I do beg you're pardon? I mistook you for another D. Apologies.

No worries. Hope things are going well across the pond. Things have been busy and it's been hard keeping up on SF conversations. This thread is an easier read though than the G&G thread recently.
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Originally Posted by alexSF View Post

There is really a lot of confusion about the conversion, hope that C&J itself could ever provide a clarification.

So for your experience D widht it's essentially Uk D? like Edward Green sizing

I think C&J posted here saying the Ralph Lauren shoes were one down but that doesn't really apply to all US retailer shoes. Ben Silver listed US E width on a bunch of their sale shoes so I wonder if the were UK E or F. But it's a crapshoot as I've definitely got C&Js from Barneys that were UK E width before too so not sure how that works. Maybe @zippyh or someone with an incredible collection can chime in?

And D width would be like EG 10/ 10.5 D (and E would be EG 10 / 10.5 E).

Ben Silver's E width is/was US E (wide) width.

I do like the fact that EG no longer alters the way it sizes its shoes for any market.
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For reference, My Islays are from Barneys. I purchased an 11DUS/10UK per barneys site. Before purchase, I checked with C&J UK and C&J Manhattan and both confirmed that Barney's shoes are sold as the US size, which will be printed/listed inside the upper. FWIW, mine are stamped in the sock liner/footbed as 11/4.

 

I think that CTB's assertion is correct. "If there's a difference between the stamped number and the printed number then the printed number is most likely the US size."

 

I'm guessing here...but perhaps if there is no difference, the printed number could be US or UK.

 

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Originally Posted by CTBrummie View Post
 

 

 

Look inside on the actual footbed of the shoe and you should see some numbers stamped there. I think they only ever stamp the UK size of the shoe there, irrespective of who the shoes were made for. If there's a difference between the stamped number and the printed number then the printed number is most likely the US size.

 

The numbers will be formatted with the size over the width, with the width represented by the older British way of using numbers (same system as still used by Tricker's) with a 5 being regular width. If they are UK-sized then the stamped number should match the number shown in your photo, in this case an 11 over a 4 for D-width.

post #7155 of 13221
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post


Ben Silver's E width is/was US E (wide) width.

I do like the fact that EG no longer alters the way it sizes its shoes for any market.

 

That seems to be the simplest solution, IMHO. Especially for folks like us.

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