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@Cuttingboard
- The C&J handgrade shoe trees are lasted to the 348. They are $170 each...i think. I use them in all my 348 models. They are excellent.

Did you buy them from C&J?
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Did you buy them from C&J?


Yes, all of my shoes and shoe trees were purchased from the C&J NYC showroom from Kevin and Rene.

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Anyone have a shoe tree recommendation for the 348 last? Any problems with the Woodlore ultra shoe tree?


These will work fine.
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- The C&J handgrade shoe trees are lasted to the 348.

I'm pretty sure this isn't true. The 348 is a benchgrade last, not handgrade, so I don't think there are any handgrade models at all on that last. Did you mean 358 maybe?
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I'm pretty sure this isn't true. The 348 is a benchgrade last, not handgrade, so I don't think there are any handgrade models at all on that last. Did you mean 358 maybe?

 

If you ask them they will tell you it is lasted to the 348...

 

I have over 10 pairs of shoes on the 348 and all of them with this tree...and it is clearly lasted...

 

Also...the 358 is the same exact last as the 348...just the hangrade model....so it can be both benchgrade/handgrade

 

Moreover...C&J chose for this tree to be lasted because the 348/358 is the most popular selling last by far of any of their lasts...

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Originally Posted by PCK1 View Post

@Cuttingboard
- The C&J handgrade shoe trees are lasted to the 348. They are $170 each...i think. I use them in all my 348 models. They are excellent.

@thelastquestion
- I've posted tons of pics in this thread in the past...but will try to post some more later on for you...

This is what C&J responded to me when I enquired about their shoe trees.


Thank you for your enquiry. We offer two models of shoe tree, the Classic (Described on the website as “Main Line”) and Handgrade (Described as “Luxury”). I’ve included a link to the photographs of the trees here: http://www.crockettandjones.com/product/shoe-trees. The classic tree costs £50 excluding VAT, is made from untreated poplar, drilled for lightness, and is based on the 325 last. The Handgrade tree costs £79.17 ex VAT, is made from maple, polished with carnauba wax, and based on the 358 and 348 lasts. Since your Hallams are built on the 348, I’d recommend the Handgrade trees, as it is about as close to a lasted shoe tree as it is possible to get ready-to wear
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Anybody else here find that the 358 fits bigger then the 348? My Westbourne benchgrade and my Selbourne handgrade 358 fit much differently. I know some think that all if the handgrade last fit a little larger then the bench grades.
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This is what C&J responded to me when I enquired about their shoe trees.


Thank you for your enquiry. We offer two models of shoe tree, the Classic (Described on the website as “Main Line”) and Handgrade (Described as “Luxury”). I’ve included a link to the photographs of the trees here: http://www.crockettandjones.com/product/shoe-trees. The classic tree costs £50 excluding VAT, is made from untreated poplar, drilled for lightness, and is based on the 325 last. The Handgrade tree costs £79.17 ex VAT, is made from maple, polished with carnauba wax, and based on the 358 and 348 lasts. Since your Hallams are built on the 348, I’d recommend the Handgrade trees, as it is about as close to a lasted shoe tree as it is possible to get ready-to wear

Thanks for the info...I emailed the NYC store to see if they carry the luxury model.
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Thanks for the info...I emailed the NYC store to see if they carry the luxury model.


Yes, they do carry them in NYC...and as I said previously...I believe they are charging $170.

 

The prices from London I guess are about USD135...so after shipping...you might save like $10 or $15 ordering through London as opposed to NYC...not worth the hassle for such a small savings IMO...I'd just go through NYC.

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Does the C&J 348 last, specifically the Westbourne shoe, run longer than the Carmina Simpson?  I am a UK6 in the Simpson and 5.5 in their Rain last and was interested in the Westbourne but am unsure of my size.

 

TIA

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CJ lasts are like battleships compared to Carmina
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If we are comparing sizes I mean
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So sizing down would be appropriate, to say a 5.5.

 

This is what I had concluded as well after reading a few posts, but I wanted to confirm.  It sucks because there is a brand new Westbourne in the marketplace in a size 6 and I was hoping it would fit, but it doesn't sound like it would

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Originally Posted by jas0nt View Post

This is what C&J responded to me when I enquired about their shoe trees.

Thank you for your enquiry. We offer two models of shoe tree, the Classic (Described on the website as “Main Line”) and Handgrade (Described as “Luxury”). I’ve included a link to the photographs of the trees here: http://www.crockettandjones.com/product/shoe-trees. The classic tree costs £50 excluding VAT, is made from untreated poplar, drilled for lightness, and is based on the 325 last. The Handgrade tree costs £79.17 ex VAT, is made from maple, polished with carnauba wax, and based on the 358 and 348 lasts. Since your Hallams are built on the 348, I’d recommend the Handgrade trees, as it is about as close to a lasted shoe tree as it is possible to get ready-to wear

Interesting! I definitely wouldn't have guessed the classic tree was 325. I wonder what the "Paris specific" tree is based on?
http://www.crockettandjones.com/product/shoe-trees#.U2j6KfldV8E
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Anybody else here find that the 358 fits bigger then the 348? My Westbourne benchgrade and my Selbourne handgrade 358 fit much differently. I know some think that all if the handgrade last fit a little larger then the bench grades.

Before I bought my Lowndes, I tried them and the 358 lasted Seymour at the NYC store. They definitely fit differently. This was a couple of years ago so I might not be remembering accurately but I seem to recall the 358 being a touch wider at the front of the foot. In any case the fit of the 348 was a little better for me so I went with the Lowndes. (It didn't hurt that it was a couple hundred bucks cheaper too.)
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On gentleman I own 2 pairs of the shell crockett and jones but I now considering a pair it grained calf skin on the islay what's the feeling on the quality of there calfskin
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