** Quintessential Crockett & Jones Thread ** (reviews, quality, etc...)

[SuitedDx]



y u no like teh vash?

Just a little too much heft on a pair of balmorals. I have a smaller frame so the HAF sole just stands out a little too much for me for smart shoes but they would not be an issue for me if they were on country shoes (or Aldens).

And a pair of Hastings that are in the 'other' chestnut hue. They're an older pair that I've been bringing back to life before moving them on; the shoe-box has the original price marked as £220...:

I like the shape of those; what last are they on?

 

[kmdsimpson]



at one point they were definitely made on dainite. could you post a pic of you leather sole'd boots? from the boot pictures online, its easy to spot the dainite outsole. def not leather soled boots in the pic

alexSF, thats terrible. its my worst nightmare

Yes, here are some pics. First four in natural light; last one with flash. I was set to get the Dainite, but now that I have them, I think I'm OK with the leather sole. I can always resole later if needed.

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

 

[CTBrummie]

Just a little too much heft on a pair of balmorals. I have a smaller frame so the HAF sole just stands out a little too much for me for smart shoes but they would not be an issue for me if they were on country shoes (or Aldens).
I like the shape of those; what last are they on?

I don't know, sorry! I know what you mean about the shape; they remind me of the last that Loake use for their Litchfield brogue boot.

Pic below of the inner markings, if that's of use, otherwise I could ask the staff at the local shop to see if they can help:

 

[NAMOR]

BB boots look great man. i think i just prefer dainite over leather sole on all my boots (id probably wear my Cottesmore more if they were on dainite instead of double leather). actually, if i could, id resole all my boots to carmina equivalent of dainite (thinner profile) and my dress shoes with Alden oiled flex single leather

 

[zippyh]

Just a little too much heft on a pair of balmorals. I have a smaller frame so the HAF sole just stands out a little too much for me for smart shoes but they would not be an issue for me if they were on country shoes (or Aldens). I like the shape of those; what last are they on?

I don't know, sorry! I know what you mean about the shape; they remind me of the last that Loake use for their Litchfield brogue boot. Pic below of the inner markings, if that's of use, otherwise I could ask the staff at the local shop to see if they can help:

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

According to this post, they're on the 328 last. http://www.styleforum.net/t/81140/c-j-lasts/135#post_3409837

 

[kmdsimpson]



BB boots look great man. i think i just prefer dainite over leather sole on all my boots (id probably wear my Cottesmore more if they were on dainite instead of double leather). actually, if i could, id resole all my boots to carmina equivalent of dainite (thinner profile) and my dress shoes with Alden oiled flex single leather

Thanks. I agree with your idea about boots. But I find Dainite too hard and uncomfortable when walking on normal dry surfaces. I also figure I might be able to get away with these in slightly dressier environments. But I'll have to look into the Carmina or other equivalents.

BTW, these are marked as the 240 last. They look and feel almost exactly the same as my Lindricks, which are supposedly on the 325 - the soles line up almost exactly - although the Lindricks are not marked. Is there much difference in these lasts?

 

[NAMOR]

240 is slightly narrower than the 325. 240 looks good with a captoe style whereas 325 is great for wingtips

 

[SuitedDx]



According to this post, they're on the 328 last.
http://www.styleforum.net/t/81140/c-j-lasts/135#post_3409837

Thanks Z! I wonder how many lasts C&J uses in total. I know 337, 358/348, 325, 341 are commonly used (excluding loafers lasts) then there are all these random other ones... so confusing. Reminds me of AE's various lasts

 

[CTBrummie]

According to this post, they're on the 328 last.
http://www.styleforum.net/t/81140/c-j-lasts/135#post_3409837

Good call, that man!

 

[zippyh]

According to this post, they're on the 328 last.
http://www.styleforum.net/t/81140/c-j-lasts/135#post_3409837

Thanks Z! I wonder how many lasts C&J uses in total. I know 337, 358/348, 325, 341 are commonly used (excluding loafers lasts) then there are all these random other ones... so confusing. Reminds me of AE's various lasts

For some reason I have an easier time remembering numbered lasts as opposed to the multitude of seemingly randomly named Carmina lasts.

 

[Patrick R]

BB boots look great man. i think i just prefer dainite over leather sole on all my boots

I bought and returned the BB boots because they came with the double leather instead of Dainite soles. I had my SA call around to inquire and all of the remaining stock in my size was double leather. What a disappointment.

Then again, at the end of the day, I don't think I'm much of a full on boot man. I much prefer a chukka.

 

[Bugsy]

I am truly enjoying the brecons I just bought. I think the 341 last is pretty good for me. I love boots. My problem is there is only one other boot with 341 last in CJ line, the Chelsea which I will get in spring. After that i can't see myself going to a narrower Tetburys or a rounder Alternative. Would the group know of any comparable brands with similar last to 341s? Many thanks.


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[TKDKid]



According to this post, they're on the 328 last.
http://www.styleforum.net/t/81140/c-j-lasts/135#post_3409837

I think that was a typo; according to an old C&J catalogue, the Hastings was made on the 238 last. I have a pair of shoes and a pair of boots on this last:



- it looks quite nice, but it's a bit narrow.

Thanks Z! I wonder how many lasts C&J uses in total. I know 337, 358/348, 325, 341 are commonly used (excluding loafers lasts) then there are all these random other ones... so confusing. Reminds me of AE's various lasts

C&J have been gradually phasing out their older lasts. My problem is that they seem to be phasing out the 337 last as well.

 

[Wes Bourne]



C&J have been gradually phasing out their older lasts. My problem is that they seem to be phasing out the 337 last as well.

Would be cool if they're phasing out the 337 to introduce the Japanese-exclusive(?) 367 to more markets...

Hi, sorry for the lack of full scanlations of MEN's EX articles as I initially planned (busy busy). But here is a mini-scanlation from the latest MEN'S EX issue that came out a few days ago. It's on the news that the new C&J (HandGrade line) model Audley III on Last 367 has just arrived. I just translated the main points of the article from Japanese.

from MEN's EX Oct Issue (9/06/11 pub)

"Emergency News: The new evolved model of the classic C&J 'Audley', the 'AUDLEY III' has Arrived!"




and here are my translation of the main difference between Audley and the new Audley III, from page 2







From the article, it seems like Audley III is on sale only in Japan. Also available in Chestut. Priced at 76,550 yen ($994 USD)

3 other models in Last 367 is also available there, including an equally alluring BELGRAVE III

 

[meister]

Thanks.

It never ceases to amaze me (as someone who went just about every week to Japan in the late 80s/early 90s) why Japan is 20-50% more expensive thean every other industrialised Tier 1 country.

But then Australia has been a milch cow for importers for years so what's my point?