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I agree, every online retailer for C&J has unreliable stock. Barney's is good, but stock is limited and models vary.

C&J stores always seem to have the product in stock...
post #5507 of 12835
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Originally Posted by JubeiSpiegel View Post

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I agree, every online retailer for C&J has unreliable stock. Barney's is good, but stock is limited and models vary.

C&J stores always seem to have the product in stock...

Can't imagine why they'd want to maximise their margins through increasing their direct sales, eh? Aha!
post #5508 of 12835
Does C&J do MTO with different widths? Would like to get the Skye but I would need a G fitting...
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Yes as an individual MTO. Or as a group, if the entire group is that same width.
post #5510 of 12835
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Originally Posted by hoit1981 View Post

Yes as an individual MTO. Or as a group, if the entire group is that same width.

Great! Thanks
post #5511 of 12835
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Originally Posted by embromides View Post
 

Hi, t44tq. I've had my Pudey boots some weeks now. I alternate them with my Coniston, my Harlech and my Cheaney Cairngorms (derby veldtschoens - a D fitting, now discontinued). They are indeed made by Crockett and have the same pattern number stamped inside as the Coniston. They are not a "D" specification, just the standard Coniston last which is more generous in a boot than the 325  last in a Derby or Oxford shoe - to allow for thicker socks I presume.  I cannot wear the 325 last in a shoe - just too tight a fit in width.

 

I ordered from Purdey in London by phone, £395. I'm pleased with them, though I've taken to using a burgundy polish to maintain their dark brown colouring. I would choose them over the Islay if you prefer a sleeker style of boot - I like my brouging on an Oxford shoe.

 

I hope they will serve me as well as my eleven year old Conistons.

Thank you, embromides. If that is a US "D" fitting shoe (or a Crockett "E"), it's not going to work for me at all. I definitely need a "G" fitting in Crockett to work.

 

Unfortunately, I tried some BB Peal & Co. in a US "E" fitting- one pair was C&J and the other Alfred Sargent. Neither one fit, unfortunately.

 

I got the last number wrong as well- the ones that I tried that fit were on a 341 last, in an Oxford, although the C&J manager assured me that if the Oxford shoe fit me in the right size, then a boot would fit the same. It looks like I won't be able to save money by getting the Purdeys- I'll have to do MTO direct from C&J.

 

Purdey won't disclose their manufacturers, but they did confirm that their boots are made to an "E" fitting, which I believe is the same width as a US "D".

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"I got the last number wrong as well- the ones that I tried that fit were on a 341 last, in an Oxford, although the C&J manager assured me that if the Oxford shoe fit me in the right size, then a boot would fit the same. It looks like I won't be able to save money by getting the Purdeys- I'll have to do MTO direct from C&J."

 

 

Sorry that the 325 is a no-go. If you liked the 341 last ( and they fitted ) you might want to think about the Harlech boot. As a cordovan leather it is expensive, but in my experience, a most elegant boot!! It outclasses any other derby-style boot I have come across.  In my opinion the Harlech, as a double leather-soled boot, also gives a more elegant finish than a rustic dainite-shod boot. I know I am well dressed when I stride out in them

 

The only other boot I aspire to is the old Somerville hand-grade barmoral-style boot (last 365). Unfortunately that last would be contricting for my feet I fear.  Do post what decision you arrive at. There would be a waiting list for the Harlech. I waited 12 weeks when I ordered last year.

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Originally Posted by embromides View Post
 

Sorry that the 325 is a no-go. If you liked the 341 last ( and they fitted ) you might want to think about the Harlech boot. As a cordovan leather it is expensive, but in my experience, a most elegant boot!! It outclasses any other derby-style boot I have come across.  In my opinion the Harlech, as a double leather-soled boot, also gives a more elegant finish than a rustic dainite-shod boot. I know I am well dressed when I stride out in them

 

 

x2. My Harlechs in dark brown are my favorite boots ever!

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Originally Posted by K. Nights View Post

Does C&J do MTO with different widths? Would like to get the Skye but I would need a G fitting...

 

How about sizing 0.5 up? A friend of mine wears 9.0 G in the Radstock (I think it is), but takes 9.5 E in Corniston without any troubles… And he was fitted for both of them in the C&J store in Jermyn St...

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Check the Pennine, Mallory and Fiennes boots. Also the Cairngorn shoe, and they used to do similar models such as the Cardigan and Newmarket that sometimes pop up on eBay...none of them shearling-lined, but all veldts. Cheaney have been one of the most prolific of veldt makers over the years.

 

Also worth noting that most of Cheaney's veldt boots are (leather-)lined, unlike the Snowdon and Galway. because they use a different basic pattern to C&J and EG, whose pattern is basically a wholecut derby boot with unlined leg.

 

I often wonder if Cheaney picked up their veldt machiney from Tecnic when they went under, as the basic Cheaney veldt shoe pattern closely mirrors the old Tecnic classic pattern. I've heard that Alfred Sargent picked up Lotus's old machinery (Lotus being the originator of the 'welted veldtschoen), and it's a shame that AS no longer offer a selection of veldts because they used to make bloody battleships such as the Selkirk and Kelso et al.

 

Thanks a lot Brummie, your insights into this always amazes me! I guess I have to make a prioritised list for the specs of the boots, and then see which brand can realise most of my wishes. Right now the list looks like: 1) Veldtschoen, 2) fully stealing lining, 3) aug grain/heather gorse, and possibly 4) Galway :smarmy: 

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I think they call it 'heather gorse' these days but worth dropping them a line. Bear in mind that the lined Galways only have the boot leg with shearling and not the body of the boot itself.

I was a little gutted when C&J kicked the shearling idea into touch but then thought about it and decided that a year-round boot to wear casually was of more use to me anyway. Also, see below...


They're the Cheaney Irvine model which I spoilered in a post a few days ago. Getting them more than made up for the lack of lining in my special order Snowdons, and they're still available in the UK. I got mine from the Shoe Healer and Cheaney themselves sell them. Great boots!

Looks like the PS model is dainite rather than commando, though.
post #5517 of 12835
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Originally Posted by K. Nights View Post

Does C&J do MTO with different widths? Would like to get the Skye but I would need a G fitting...

There isn't a stock G in the Skye, right?  I'd love a pair in G as well ... 

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There isn't a stock G in the Skye, right?  I'd love a pair in G as well ... 

I don't believe so, but maybe someone more knowledgeable could chime in.
post #5519 of 12835
Can anyone give me some advices on 348 last? Mostly my shoes i wear are uk8.5 for loake, cheaney, herring and meermin. Shall i pick 8.5 for 348 last, any half size up or down?

FYI
Loake 3625 last 8,5
Meermin Olfe and Hiro last 8,5
Cheaney 11028 last 8,5
Carmina Simpson 8,5 Inca 8,0

Ths so much
Alfred
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Originally Posted by attk View Post

Can anyone give me some advices on 348 last? Mostly my shoes i wear are uk8.5 for loake, cheaney, herring and meermin. Shall i pick 8.5 for 348 last, any half size up or down?

FYI
Loake 3625 last 8,5
Meermin Olfe and Hiro last 8,5
Cheaney 11028 last 8,5
Carmina Simpson 8,5 Inca 8,0

Ths so much
Alfred

Much safer to try on in person. If you're in HK Tassels in the Landmark stocks them, so you can try and buy from there.
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