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** Quintessential Crockett & Jones Thread ** (reviews, quality, etc...) - Page 365post #5461 of 131581/2/14 at 1:13pmThank you Cleav I thought about the Clifford too but decided on Finsbury as I preferred its medallion design, although the total cost including dainite sole conversion still came >£400 so wasn't that much less than Clifford. Not sure if I made the right decision lol but I guess both are mighty finepost #5462 of 131581/2/14 at 2:28pmQuote:Originally Posted by Chuckie Egg
Thank you Cleav I thought about the Clifford too but decided on Finsbury as I preferred its medallion design, although the total cost including dainite sole conversion still came >£400 so wasn't that much less than Clifford. Not sure if I made the right decision lol but I guess both are mighty fine
Well, based on the pics you've posted thus far you certainly did make a good decision, lookin goodpost #5463 of 131581/2/14 at 3:20pm
Hmmmm.... I'm not completely sure to be honest? You may find that it differs even on the same last from shoe to shoe due to the way they cut the facing patterns. I remember this was noticable on some of the 348 shoes. In theory they should all be identical on the same last as the facings normally meet on the centre line...
Stick to oxfords and ask for a tongue pad to try them with. If that works for you cobblers can always insert a permanent pad into the tongue, easy job so won't take long. All can be done through the store.
Those Finsburys are looking good Chuckie Egg :)post #5464 of 131581/2/14 at 3:44pm
Just got these today in sale... Lawrence Handgrade with hand sewn split-toe and lake :) Probably going to strip and recolour them in mid-dark brown. What do you think?
I really wanted the Edward Green Ashbys but they are Waaaaaaaay out of my price range. Pretty happy with these though for around half the price ;)post #5465 of 131581/2/14 at 4:13pmpost #5466 of 131581/2/14 at 4:36pmpost #5467 of 131581/2/14 at 4:40pmpost #5468 of 131581/2/14 at 4:44pmpost #5469 of 131581/2/14 at 10:59pmQuote:
This summer, I was quoted 60 pounds for a new pair bought in store (10 days conversion), and 110 for a used pair (8 weeks conversion). Price could easily have on up a bit since then.post #5470 of 131581/3/14 at 2:42ampost #5471 of 131581/3/14 at 6:07ampost #5472 of 131581/3/14 at 8:08amQuote:I would keep the colour .. I like it .. So much dark brown already from everyone.Originally Posted by West End Closer
Just got these today in sale... Lawrence Handgrade with hand sewn split-toe and lake Probably going to strip and recolour them in mid-dark brown. What do you think?
I really wanted the Edward Green Ashbys but they are Waaaaaaaay out of my price range. Pretty happy with these though for around half the pricepost #5473 of 131581/3/14 at 8:39amFinally, someone using them for what they're intended and not babying them on a shelf with endless saphir treatments*!
(*as most, not all, of my country boots ashamedly are too...)post #5474 of 131581/3/14 at 9:41amQuote:
This, a dozen times over.
I think there's a bit of a cultural thing here with the way that some people on this forum treat their footwear and clothes (and other goods) compared to the people who have traditionally been the main users of some of the things that are held in high esteem on here.
If you've ever been to the house of an upper-class or upper-middle-class (yes, some people do still make the distinction) Englishman, then you'll see that most things there are of the highest quality and have been well-used for some time. The expectation is that you pay for quality stuff and that longevity is part of the package, and also that the goods will be entirely fit for the purpose for which they are intended, with minimal faff and fuss - this applies equally to a pair of shooting boots, or a wax jacket, or a tweed suit, or an off-road vehicle or whatever.
So as soon as you've parted with the cash, you start using the hell out of whatever you'd bought and expect it to last a long, long time - another good reason for shoemakers and wax jacket suppliers and the like to provide a good aftercare service to acknowledge that their goods are designed to be patched, resoled, reheeled and so on.
And with all of these goods, they tend to look better and better with age, like a decades-old pair of country brogues or a battered Durham wax jacket. It's very much like the English expression of the Japanese 'wabi-sabi' aesthetic.
(As an aside of vague relevance, those of you who've read the former Tory MP Alan Clark's memoirs might remember his put-down of fellow Tory Michael Heseltine as being someone who had "to buy his own furniture"...)
Now that forums like this have brought these kind of goods to a wider audience they are being picked up by people who don't share the same cultural sensibilities as the aforementioned country types above and naturally, having spent a significant wedge of cash on these goods, they get babied and pampered and so on. I'd never suggest wear and tear on anything for its own sake, but it's good to see stuff being used in its natural habitat like the couple of pairs of Islay's on the last couple of pages...post #5475 of 131581/3/14 at 10:20am
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