** Quintessential Crockett & Jones Thread ** (reviews, quality, etc...)

[Frank the sheep]



There appear to be very few shots of this boot actually being worn in the wild which makes me wonder if anyone actually wears it regularly after purchasing, perhaps because its elongated last doesn't suit their build. I did find this snap though from another SF thread here

http://www.styleforum.net/t/277914/waywrn-shoe-boot-edition/555




And an e.g. of a worn boot minus owner



I wondered earlier in the thread if the wax leather is a corrected grain but it appears that this boot has previoulsy been made up in Cavalry Calf which is C&J's corrected grain leather. The 2nd picture looks like the wax calf version and to my eyes anyway looks very good. One for the future but for the moment am saving the euros and cent for Cottesmore before C&J put their prices up again!

The last pic is mine and yes i wear mine lots during late fall / winter / early spring. I wear them with jeans and i don´t think they are to dressy for that. It´s waxed leather so just don´t polish them too much and there is no problem to get a casual look...

 

[Bugsy]

Anyone have the Tetbury in the antique new buck blk or brown.? I'm confused by the new buck part as I thought it was a suede ish version, oiled and more for very casual shoes? Thanks

 

[ap10046]

They are more like a slightly waxy leather. Feel nothing like nubuck.

 

[johanm]



The wax calf used by C&J should be a "semi-corrected" grain leather, impregnated with waxes, similar to the old Church's Appaloosa Calf ( see this http://www.styleforum.net/t/168002/shoe-damage-report-shoe-p0rn-central-part-ii/6825#post_4788717)
It will age better and better than Corrected grain.

I once asked C&J directly about their cavalry calf, specifically whether it is corrected grain. Their response:

Thank you for your email.
Cavalry calf is a slightly waxed calf made to look like Cordovan (horse hide).
Our normal calf skins are hand polished and antiqued but not impregnated with wax like the cavalry calf.
We do not use any corrected calf at our Factory.


Best Regards

Steve Murdoch

General Manager
Crockett and Jones Ltd

 

[Fred G. Unn]

Does anyone know what model this is? It appears to be a discontinued Handgrade model.

 

[Fred G. Unn]



Does anyone know what model this is? It appears to be a discontinued Handgrade model.

Oh well, they're gone now anyway. New handgrades at under $400, I probably shouldn't have hesitiated.

 

[hkhobo]

I got these a year ago for about USD200 in Hong Kong at Lane Crawford's discount outlet.

It's called Cumberland. I asked C&J and they emailed me back saying they are handgrade on the 337 last and are discontinued.

 

[alexSF]

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

Someone could help me in C&J sizing?
Unfortunately the only C&J that I owned and tried was the marlow penny in size 9D (314 last) that fitted in this way (the foot could't enter more):

I am a Uk 8.5 in many brands and was a surprise to find that 314 last was so narrow and short.
(And as far as I understand US 9D is exactly a Uk 8.5E in Boston Loafer)
Now I would like to order the Shipton & Heneage Wilton (72 last offered in Ex and G width) and I would avoid to return the shoes one or two times.
I wear Size 8.5 F in various Sanders Mcnairy, 8.5 F in Loake 026, 8G in Church's 173 and others.
C&J lasts are so narrow? Would I order UK 9G in Wilton?
Thanks in advance

[SIZE=10pt][COLOR=000000]C&J 314 last is the shortest in their entire benchgrade range that I have experience of. Initially I found it very difficult to get into the 314 lasted C&J cordovan Harvard penny shoe in 8E but it has broken in nicely after wearing with the thinnest pair of socks I have.[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=10pt][COLOR=000000]You also need to factor in the penny strap (the full strap as per the RL shoe also may have made the shoe tighter for you but don't forget loafers need to be a bit less forgiving than lace ups anyway, too big and there will be significant slippage).[/COLOR][/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt][COLOR=000000]I have also tried the 325 lasted cordovan Henley penny in 8E but simply couldn't get my feet into it which was a real surprise as I have 325 lasted Cardiff, Coniston, Onslow and Cavendish tassel and have no problems there. The 325 isn't a particularly long last either so I think if your feet are any way wide and with a high instep the penny strap can make it difficult to get into the C&J E fit without going up a half a size which I wasn't prepared to do on a 500 euro pair of shoes.[/COLOR][/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt][COLOR=000000]However word of warning regarding C&J's G lasted shoes. The Pembroke wingtip in E fit (like RL's Darlton w'tip) is made on the 325, however the G fit Pembroke which is made on a different last, the 317 is a MASSIVE fit.[/COLOR][/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt][COLOR=000000]EX might be best for you and if the Hilton in made on the 72 last you could also contact C&J themselves for fitting advice as their RTW Langham tassel loafer is also made on this last in an EX fit.[/COLOR][/SIZE]

Today I've tried the 8.5 E in 325 Last, It's wearable but uncomfortable, it's long and a bit narrow for my feet.
I don't found it to be such a generous last as usually described.
I should accept that C&J E lasts aren't for my feet, probably I should try their 8G/8.5 F where available.

 

[alexSF]

Something a bit different...the C&J Lulworth saddle shoes, in mushroom suede / tan pebble grain.
Very refined and elegant casual saddle.

 

[Hampton]

AlexSF, very nice! Enjoy them.

 

[Hampton]

C&J & JOHN LOBB 0:29 seconds in the video. New generation guys

 

[powenb]

I bought a beautiful pair of Merton loafers this weekend while in Jermyn Street, London.
They are on the 348 last and in a gorgeous Beechnut colour.
When I went to pay I was told they are subs but with no sign of damage so I was chuffed to get the extra 10% off.
But when I got them home I found this mark on the heel.

Now I'm not so chuffed and am expecting to take a trip there again this weekend to exchange them for an unmarked pair.
This isn't a small journey for me, but I'm sure will be worth the effort once I get my unmarked pair home.
What a shop and what a beautiful shopping experience it is whenever I visit there.

 

[Gdot]

If it were me....I'd just let it be. After a few polishes and some wear they will start to take on a mark here and there anyway. It's all part of patina building.

 

[powenb]



If it were me....I'd just let it be. After a few polishes and some wear they will start to take on a mark here and there anyway. It's all part of patina building.

I have been toying with just that!!

 

[sevenfoldtieguy]



I have been toying with just that!!

To me fit is the most important thing. If these fit exactly right, just keep them. If they don't, then take them back.