** Quintessential Crockett & Jones Thread ** (reviews, quality, etc...)

[wj4]



I was told this also (by a C&J vendor in the U.K.) but after researching various threads here regarding the fit of the Tetbury I decided to size down one full size instead of half a size. That was the right decision for me as my Tetbury's couldn't fit any better. Search for those threads.

I've searched around and when you search hard enough, they kind of contradict each other. I sized down .5 for my first last 337 shoes and had to return them. I based my initial decision with what I found on the forums in addition to asking a couple of stockists. With insurance and such, shipping came out to be around $40-45...ouch.

What size are you in other makes? Perhaps that will help me gauge more accurately. Thanks for your 2 cents BTW!

 

[Liquidus]

I've found the consensus on C&J sizing is to size down a full size, unless you have wide feet, in which case you may need to size down a half size for narrow lasts (348).

 

[John Doe]

I have a couple of Aldens in the plaza last, 8.5US. Ferragamos in 8.5US equivalent. I also have a pair of C&J Lowndes dub monks in a UK 8. These are also on the 348 last like the Tetbury's. They would have fit a little better if I had gotten them in 7.5UK like my Tetbury's. They fit fine after I put in some insoles but if I were to order them again I'd get them in 7.5UK.

I know what you mean about contradictory info when researching older threads, however my take away from those threads in regards to the Tetbury was that most people were happy sizing down one whole size and I concur. If you're a US 8.5 I'm sure the 7.5 UK Tetbury is your best bet, it was for me.

 

[chogall]

I've searched around and when you search hard enough, they kind of contradict each other. I sized down .5 for my first last 337 shoes and had to return them. I based my initial decision with what I found on the forums in addition to asking a couple of stockists. With insurance and such, shipping came out to be around $40-45...ouch.
What size are you in other makes? Perhaps that will help me gauge more accurately. Thanks for your 2 cents BTW!

eh, where? Its always a full size down.

C&J = JL = full size down
EG = G&G = half size down. For G&G, maybe go up one width.

I've found the consensus on C&J sizing is to size down a full size, unless you have wide feet, in which case you may need to size down a half size for narrow lasts (348).

Wrong!!!!! Still a full size down even if you have wide feet. Spot stretching can easily fix a pair of narrow shoes at the right length. Nothing can fix a pair of shoes at the right width but half size longer. Heel grip/tong pads/inserts will only cause the shoe to walk and crease very differently.

And, don't expect your feet to fit in every last out there.

 

[swiego]

I have wide feet and have had to size down 1/2 size (rather than 1 size) on the 337 last.

 

[mxgreen]



eh, where?  Its always a full size down.

C&J = JL = full size down
EG = G&G = half size down.  For G&G, maybe go up one width.

Wrong!!!!! Still a full size down even if you have wide feet.  Spot stretching can easily fix a pair of narrow shoes at the right length.  Nothing can fix a pair of shoes at the right width but half size longer.  Heel grip/tong pads/inserts will only cause the shoe to walk and crease very differently.

And, don't expect your feet to fit in every last out there.

Wrong!!!!

In an e-mail to me C&J stated very clearly that a UK11.5E is a US12D. And, in fact, I wear a US12D or a UK11.5E in each of the following shoes - C&J for Barneys Connaught (236 last) marked US12D, C&J for RL Darlton shell wingtip (325 last) marked US12D, C&J for Foster & Son Ascot captoe (324 last) marked UK11.5E, and C&J for RL Benton (337 last) purchased from UK seller and marked UK11.5E.

Look everyone is different; some go down 1/2 size, some a full size. You have to try the shoes on to see what is your correct size. It can get very expensive - it did for me - because there are not many US sellers of C&J shoes. But, you may be able to try on a variety of C&J made shoes at a local Brooks Brothers or Ralph Lauren to get a feel for your correct size.

 

[claes500]

Does anyone know if the 337 lasted shoetrees are still available? I bought hinged ones last year but now I can't seem to find them?

 

[meister]

I have a pair of C&J Handgrade dub monks that were made for RLPL some time ago. They seem to have 338 on the inside shoe wall. Is there formerly a 338 last?

 

[Frank the sheep]



Does anyone know if the 337 lasted shoetrees are still available? I bought hinged ones last year but now I can't seem to find them?

When i bought my Somervilles from Burlington Arcade a month ago i got a pair of the lasted trees, 85 punds.

Spoiler: The trees :)

 

[SuitedDx]

Just receives my Somervilles (first pair of handgrades) and I am extremely pleased. Regret not getting the lasted shoe trees but I can get those next time. Really happy with my pair: all dark brown calf (even the shaft), all eyelets (not speed hooks), and the fit was spot on (1 full size down for me has been consistent).

Funny I bought a pair of AE Fifth Streets recently and they are vey similar in color. I think my AEs will provide a nice dyeing experiment!

 

[dandie]

new cliffords for me - have been yearning for these even though I'm not convinced they are suitable for midweek use with a suit. If not, then there are plenty of weekends

 

[dandie]

Just receives my Somervilles (first pair of handgrades) and I am extremely pleased. Regret not getting the lasted shoe trees but I can get those next time. Really happy with my pair: all dark brown calf (even the shaft), all eyelets (not speed hooks), and the fit was spot on (1 full size down for me has been consistent).

Much as I love my Somervilles (chestnut leather/snuff suede) I think the dark brown may have been a more practical choice - I could see them getting a lot more wear.

 

[Northampton Novice]

^ Surely you are not short of practical choices given your excellent C&J collection Dandie

 

[SuitedDx]

I do like contrasting shafts; however, I'm not a big fan of suede. I'm thinking of using natural cream on the shaft and cream with dark brown dye on the uppers when I condition them. I think after a few years it should develop into a nice subtle contrast.

I was extremely happy when I received them that they had all eyelets since the all dark brown calf model I saw had speed hooks.

 

[Gdot]



new cliffords for me - have been yearning for these even though I'm not convinced they are suitable for midweek use with a suit. If not, then there are plenty of weekends 

Lovely,

Move to the US. You can wear those shoes any day of the week here! (Unless you work in a VERY conservative environment.)