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Originally Posted by Cordohan View Post
 

How do I know whether a specific last is handgrade or benchgrade? I also cannot seem to grasp the major differences between the two..


The easiest way to distinguish between the two is to look at the sole: handgrade has channeled and beveled sole whereas benchgrade has open stitching. 

 

Hand grade also uses better quality leather (not that handgrade leather is bad), bark tanned soles that are more durable and flexible, higher quality lining leather, and more extensive hand finishing. Overall handgrade takes up to 10 weeks to manufacture whereas benchgrade is up to 8 weeks. You do pay more for the refinement so whether the premium of roughly 100 pound sterling is worth it is up to each buyer's discretion. 

post #11207 of 13814
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Originally Posted by LeatherFoot View Post
 


The easiest way to distinguish between the two is to look at the sole: handgrade has channeled and beveled sole whereas benchgrade has open stitching. 

 

Hand grade also uses better quality leather (not that handgrade leather is bad), bark tanned soles that are more durable and flexible, higher quality lining leather, and more extensive hand finishing. Overall handgrade takes up to 10 weeks to manufacture whereas benchgrade is up to 8 weeks. You do pay more for the refinement so whether the premium of roughly 100 pound sterling is worth it is up to each buyer's discretion. 


But both are (gemmed) GYWs in the making, am I correct?

 

I love my C&Js, so this is not a disrespecting question... I know how dangerous this Topic is :)

 

Has anyone ever cut open a pair of C&Js?

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Simple question, is a shoe marked EE the same as wide? Compared to the standard E? As in this picture:

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Too bad it can't be made in G width. I would def join. frown.gif
post #11211 of 13814
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Originally Posted by peppercorn78 View Post

Too bad it can't be made in G width. I would def join. frown.gif

Yeah that sucks. Damn them for not allowing all widths.
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Is the colour of the chestnut calf C&J uses drastically different between bench grade and hand grade? The hand grade seems reddish on their site, while the bench grade more tan. Sorry if this has been covered, but a search didn't yield any results.


Edited by Johnsson - 3/3/16 at 10:59am
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Stumbled upon these on ebay last week for $235, took a chance, and it ended up paying off nicely. Crockett & Jones for Ralph Lauren…a rough out WWII-style boot on commando sole. The fit is perfect and they've been getting a lot of wear lately...

 

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Hello all,

 

i have a question regarding sizing and fit of the Camberley boots.

 

I have recently purchased two pairs of the black Camberley boots (last 348), one in 6.5 and one in 7 as I just couldnt decide in the shop. So I have worn each for a few days around the house, so I can make a decision on which one to return.

 

1) The 6.5 has very minimal heel slippage, maybe half an inch, but the top of my foot (i.e. the dorsum of my foot) feels quite tight, and over the course of the day it becomes quite uncomfortably tight (I can always feel the boots are there) and toe box feels slightly cramped at the end of the day.

 

2) The 7 has much more heel slippage (about an inch I reckon?), so much so that even at the tightest buckle setting, I can just slip the boots off if I pull hard enough. But its overall much more comfortable. Dorsum of foot is not pressurized at all. But I can also see that I have much more room around the ankles - when I walk the leather just dances about as it does not hug my ankle snugly.

 

What do you suggest I do? go for the 6.5 and hope it stretches enough (I heard Saphir shoe-eze would help?) or the 7?

 

I really really love these shoes so don't want to have to return both of them. Am I in between sizes? Are there any general guides for proper fit for C&J boots?

post #11215 of 13814
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Originally Posted by Technica View Post

Hello all,

i have a question regarding sizing and fit of the Camberley boots.

I have recently purchased two pairs of the black Camberley boots (last 348), one in 6.5 and one in 7 as I just couldnt decide in the shop. So I have worn each for a few days around the house, so I can make a decision on which one to return.

1) The 6.5 has very minimal heel slippage, maybe half an inch, but the top of my foot (i.e. the dorsum of my foot) feels quite tight, and over the course of the day it becomes quite uncomfortably tight (I can always feel the boots are there) and toe box feels slightly cramped at the end of the day.

2) The 7 has much more heel slippage (about an inch I reckon?), so much so that even at the tightest buckle setting, I can just slip the boots off if I pull hard enough. But its overall much more comfortable. Dorsum of foot is not pressurized at all. But I can also see that I have much more room around the ankles - when I walk the leather just dances about as it does not hug my ankle snugly.

What do you suggest I do? go for the 6.5 and hope it stretches enough (I heard Saphir shoe-eze would help?) or the 7?

I really really love these shoes so don't want to have to return both of them. Am I in between sizes? Are there any general guides for proper fit for C&J boots?

It's possible the last just doesn't work for your foot. It sounds like you're stuck choosing between the lesser of two evils.
post #11216 of 13814
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Originally Posted by bespoken pa View Post

It's possible the last just doesn't work for your foot. It sounds like you're stuck choosing between the lesser of two evils.

+1

The 348 last is ideal for people with low insteps. That said, if you really want to keep them, the small size sounds like your best bet.
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Originally Posted by MrBike View Post

Simple question, is a shoe marked EE the same as wide? Compared to the standard E? As in this picture:
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I've seen C&J EE only at italian retailers, it is surely wider than E.
It should be slightly narrower than F or maybe identical.
post #11218 of 13814

I couldn't get on with my 348 Monktons and I let them go.  Beautiful looking but they just felt too long in the toe box and I was constantly catching my toes on stuff.

 

The 341 Bradford and 325 Pembroke feel perfect to wear, but they are obviously not as sleek.  You just have to find something that works for you.

post #11219 of 13814
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Originally Posted by alexSF View Post


I've seen C&J EE only at italian retailers, it is surely wider than E.
It should be slightly narrower than F or maybe identical.

Its marked with just E. 

 

I did try the Northcote boots (same last as 348 i believe) in size 7 and that was perfectly fine in the shop, but obviously that one I can tighten the laces so I had very little heel slippage.

 

The Camberleys feels impossible to tighten much with the buckles. 6.5 is perfect everywhere except on the instep - pushes too much at the dorsum of my feet, 7 is perfect everywhere except heel seems to slip a lot and the leather around the ankles appear very loose...

post #11220 of 13814
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